Dragon Door Forums http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/ Dragon Door Kettlebell, Strength and Conditioning Forum en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:11:08 GMT vBulletin 30 http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/images/misc/rss.jpg Dragon Door Forums http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/ pain aches in muscles around the elbow joint? http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139365-pain-aches-muscles-around-elbow-joint.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:52:55 GMT The last couple of weeks I've been doing a lot of Pull ups and this past week I've tried doing more explosive pull ups with the intention to do a muscle up(pull up followed by a dip on the bar). With these explosive pull ups I've let myself come down fast and pretty much stop my body in the bottom position with a bounce. Ever since I've been having slight pain aches when doing push ups/pull ups in the muscles around my elbow joint i.e. under arm flexors, brachiallis and the triceps medial head.

I was greasing the groove and have only done a few single reps a day since Tuesday, I was wondering how serious this is and how to deal with it? It's just a slight pain and only during and immediately after pull ups / push ups. ]]> nexusmidas http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139365-pain-aches-muscles-around-elbow-joint.html Comrades question on protein http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/nutrition-forum/139364-comrades-question-protein.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:50:21 GMT Comrades. I am on a diet now. I need to take in protein. I was wondering if luncheon meats, such as cooked ham or salmi is good for me. In addition,... Comrades. I am on a diet now. I need to take in protein. I was wondering if luncheon meats, such as cooked ham or salmi is good for me. In addition, for protein, I ate lean steak fried and I sometimes I will treat myself with Swiss Chalet quarter chicken. I was wondering if you can help me find a protein source that I can use, that is filling, healthy and affordable. By the way what is the best way to cook meet. By John Mazzuca ]]> Nutrition Forum T-34 (IS1) http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/nutrition-forum/139364-comrades-question-protein.html Heart rate monitor http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139363-heart-rate-monitor.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:17:02 GMT I've decided to invest in a heart rate monitor, after reading a bunch of old posts on dragondoor and other stuff around the ol' interwebs recommending it. But I also want to invest in an interval timer, and I figured ideally I could make it the same investment (as opposed to buying a basic HRM and a Gymboss and having to carry both). So is anyone familiar with the HRM market and knows some good ones which allow me to set intervals? Or if there are heaps out there, I can narrow it down by saying one which has the capability of logging my maximum heartrate, and can measure running speed and/or distance too (it's okay if this requires an additional compatible accessory).

I tried checking around myself. The Polar website is pretty handy because it has comparison charts, but I couldn't find any others which allowed me to see exactly what all the products have.
Also I'd like to hear people's experiences with different brands and products too.

Thanks. ]]> Tsumaru http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139363-heart-rate-monitor.html PTTP Question. http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139362-pttp-question.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:19:50 GMT Sorry if this has already been asked and answered, but...

I have done 4 cycles of PTTP. I've added 30lbs on my best totally equipment-free deadlift (475 to 505), and still feel like I have 10-20lbs in the tank.

It seems that I'm getting to the point that the first set of 5 is really too many reps at that weight. I'm feeling fatigue, and 1/2 through the cycle, form begins to suffer.

So, what I'm considering doing is changing up my sets a little.

I'm considering 3x3 instead of 2x5, in this format:

3 reps at 90% of heavy set (what I would do on the 2nd set of 5).
3 reps "money set" (what I would have normally done on the first set of 5).
3 reps at 90% of heavy set.

Has anyone tried this? What were the results?

I know the usual answer is never to mess with The Party's advice, and I start most beginning deadlifters on PTTP with no modification and have had great sucess.

Thanks in advance. ]]> stratcat http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139362-pttp-question.html Green nail bend http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139361-green-nail-bend.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:17:22 GMT Just got my green nails in. Audio is loud sorry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76GiLN4Izjc Just got my green nails in. Audio is loud sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76GiLN4Izjc ]]> Jwood http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139361-green-nail-bend.html Squatflex, another cheap BS scheme? You decide http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139360-squatflex-another-cheap-bs-scheme-you-decide.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:13:49 GMT
When I first heard of this "Squatflex" thing to increase your vert I thought to myself.
It's the knock off version of the barbell hack squat!!!! Those nitwits. They can't possiblly convince anyone to buy it. I think it's a cheap knock off of hard labor.

Squat Flex builds your Vertical Jump
]]> Android-Man http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139360-squatflex-another-cheap-bs-scheme-you-decide.html etk program minimum http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139359-etk-program-minimum.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:04:08 GMT when im doing the program minimum it says not to lift at all.. does this include gtg of nw and every 2 or 3 days of bpa? when im doing the program minimum it says not to lift at all.. does this include gtg of nw and every 2 or 3 days of bpa? ]]> eric8 http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139359-etk-program-minimum.html No triple extension in Hardstyle? http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139358-no-triple-extension-hardstyle.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:04:07 GMT I was looking over the demonstrations of push-press and jerk in Return of the Kettlebell, and noticed that on both exercises, the ankle extension was... I was looking over the demonstrations of push-press and jerk in Return of the Kettlebell, and noticed that on both exercises, the ankle extension was removed. I understood the ease of maintaining safety reasons listed, but it occurred to me that this basically removed the only two lifts (that i know of) with triple extension from the system.

My understanding is that this particular mechanic is particularly powerful in sports application, especially if there is running involved(hence why all olympic lifters are exceptionally fast in sprints, while powerlifters are not always). So is the prescription that the heels stay down sort of a "beginner" phase, or would we reccomend that this mechanic be trained in completely different movements? ]]> selfcritical http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139358-no-triple-extension-hardstyle.html BIG and SMALL http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139357-big-small.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:18:25 GMT I would like to compare the potential of one individual to build big muscles and the same individual to build lean muscles but both with that person... I would like to compare the potential of one individual to build big muscles and the same individual to build lean muscles but both with that person being at the same strength..

here are the factors I can think of... PLEASE ADD when you can.

-BIG= > fatigue
> short breaks between sets

-SMALL= 'the opposite of big'

Now here I think are workout specific reasons... PLEASE ADD when you can.

-BIG= > strength endurance without necessary strength and skill in strength [SMALL strength and skill in strength]
> breaks between sets +- 1-5min. [SMALL 5-10min.]
> movement and muscular inefficiency (leading closer and quicker to fatigue) [SMALL relaxation and strength skill for efficiency] ]]> eric8 http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139357-big-small.html Pavel question on weightlifting belts http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139356-pavel-question-weightlifting-belts.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:43:07 GMT Comrad Pavel. I have been using weightlifting belt all my life. I was wondering if I can stop using it. I find it annoying. Will I get hurt if I stop... Comrad Pavel. I have been using weightlifting belt all my life. I was wondering if I can stop using it. I find it annoying. Will I get hurt if I stop using it? John Mazzuca ]]> T-34 (IS1) http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139356-pavel-question-weightlifting-belts.html strength but more specifically str. endurance http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139355-strength-but-more-specifically-str-endurance.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:31:51 GMT ok, so this is more of a long question than set-in-concrete theory..

My point is on relaxation and it's involvement in strength endurance.

Now I just got ETK and even waiting for my KB! but I see reading ETK that the 'ETK Break In Plan' (before program minimum) is focused on building strength, of course in the party's 'way', before strength endurance.

Now understanding 'strength is a skill'- my understanding takes me to efficiency of movement andmuscle use and so in cardio. KB workouts more relaxation of unnecessary muscles i.e efficient use of muscles, comes with more 'strength done skillfully'.

This fits my observation of working in the garden for four full days straight digging, bending etc. where I chose to relax fully and therefore was efficient in movement and muscle usage and wasn't panting and sore. I could go the whole day as opposed to a couple of hours- I also built compactly and didn't puff up which has happened before on less.

Of course this exact kind of relaxation wouldn't work first-off with KB as they are more strenuous and you have greater chance of causing injury but I see relaxation or efficiency is a direct display of skill.

Now looking at training and then performance- relaxation where possible for which one?

I see now that when you aquire skill through 'doing strength skillfully' that you do less and gain more and go further, get stronger whatever.

Reiterating this for myself I will now relax where possible and starting with low-risk stuff like running and skipping, let the heart and lungs work! you already stand without flopping into a KFC bucket or under a car..

so strength, skill in strength then only do strength endurance. Relaxation where possible, relaxation is a sign of skill!

But! I say relaxation is not the same as muscular and movement efficiency.. because if we say be efficient in muscular movements we don't know what that really means.. At least as a beginner.. and so this a 'learner's' tool rather than just a beginners tool.. I mean this can be used without having to check everything- instead IT shows YOU efficiency!..?? ]]> eric8 http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139355-strength-but-more-specifically-str-endurance.html The time has come... http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139354-time-has-come.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:28:30 GMT I'm sick of example after example of internet BS. The below vid show what a REAL side press is. It's time for a clear example of what real strength is. I don't think this level can ever be reached the avg individual (me), but I do think a 150lb side-press (hell I'd settle for 135lbs) can & should be reached before anyone begins thinking they can press.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kny0jxHszX0

This would also accompany a 550+lb DL.

There is so much outright jealous lies on the internet the time has come examples of what strength is and Paul Anderson STILL is that. Bob Peoples being yet another of many. ]]> PTTP-NewOrleans http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139354-time-has-come.html first post and a macebell http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139353-first-post-macebell.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:13:05 GMT This is my first post here ,so hello to all.Im a full time blacksmith and forged the end of a 1 inch round bar (upset into a mushroom shape to keep... This is my first post here ,so hello to all.Im a full time blacksmith and forged the end of a 1 inch round bar (upset into a mushroom shape to keep the plates from coming off) and used two ironmind collars,and presto ,a plate loading macebell.Ive been using it for a week now,works great.
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]]> mark stephen http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139353-first-post-macebell.html Reishi mushroom http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/nutrition-forum/139352-reishi-mushroom.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:35:07 GMT I am reading Terry Willards book on Reishi mushroom. His research is extensive. Any thoughts? I am reading Terry Willards book on Reishi mushroom. His research is extensive. Any thoughts? ]]> Nutrition Forum shawnstampley http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/nutrition-forum/139352-reishi-mushroom.html Three Months on RTK http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139351-three-months-rtk.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:36:33 GMT Hey gang. Just wanted to give a quick update for anyone who may be on the fence about doing RTK (and who is proficient enough to responsibly move... Hey gang. Just wanted to give a quick update for anyone who may be on the fence about doing RTK (and who is proficient enough to responsibly move into it).

Here's the progress:

  • Bodyweight - gain of 17 lbs, from 222-239. It's all functional
  • Have gone from snatching double 20kgs to double 40kgs.
  • Pressing double 36kgs up from a previous best of double 24kgs
  • I can jerk the 40s for a couple of ugly reps, but it's progress
  • I can now snatch the 48 with no trouble on either side
It wasn't anything fancy or complicated. Just marching forward and doing the same thing every time, with small tweaks in intensity each day.

This is my favorite program yet. It will work if you commit to it. I'm going to do it for another three months and I can't wait to see the changes that are still coming.

Josh ]]> Josh Hanagarne RKC http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebells-strength-conditioning-forum/139351-three-months-rtk.html