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    Curious about point number 1. The "ask your doctor" thing is usually used as a disclaimer before every book or whatever on the subject of fitness. Do people really think that doctors have any clue about exercise? I can see that if you have some kind of preexisting heart condition, but lets face it, western medicine is not known for its expertise on preventative measures and health.

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    it's a liability thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Fleming View Post
    Curious about point number 1. The "ask your doctor" thing is usually used as a disclaimer before every book or whatever on the subject of fitness. Do people really think that doctors have any clue about exercise? I can see that if you have some kind of preexisting heart condition, but lets face it, western medicine is not known for its expertise on preventative measures and health.
    John is correct; it is a liability thing. And since most doctors practice defensive medicine, asking your doctor is probably going to get a "No" to your exercise because they don't have a clue. I had one doctor tell me not to do squats because squats hurt your knees. He did not react well when I told him that my knees were fine and I had been doing squats with and without weight for sixty years. I have also had them tell me not to do cardio faster than a slow walk even though I have stress test cardiograms in the high ninety percentile and a 67% ejection fraction. The ejection fraction used to be considerably higher but I took their cursed advice about cardio intensity for a year before I decided to re evaluate my program. Blood pressure up, ejection fraction down; that's what medical advice gets you. My one concession to their concerns is that I now work out with a pulse monitor and I taper down when the pulse gets north of 150. In the last six months I have brought my blood pressure from 140/80 on their protocol to 118/58 on mine. But that is anecdotal and doesn't prove anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyray View Post
    John is correct; it is a liability thing. And since most doctors practice defensive medicine, asking your doctor is probably going to get a "No" to your exercise because they don't have a clue. I had one doctor tell me not to do squats because squats hurt your knees. He did not react well when I told him that my knees were fine and I had been doing squats with and without weight for sixty years. I have also had them tell me not to do cardio faster than a slow walk even though I have stress test cardiograms in the high ninety percentile and a 67% ejection fraction. The ejection fraction used to be considerably higher but I took their cursed advice about cardio intensity for a year before I decided to re evaluate my program. Blood pressure up, ejection fraction down; that's what medical advice gets you. My one concession to their concerns is that I now work out with a pulse monitor and I taper down when the pulse gets north of 150. In the last six months I have brought my blood pressure from 140/80 on their protocol to 118/58 on mine. But that is anecdotal and doesn't prove anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faizalenu View Post
    Find doctors that are athletes....
    Well said, faizalenu. My wife had some major surgery done and they called in a plastic surgeon to partially repair the damage. Turns out he is a weight lifter and he speaks our language fluently. But of all the doctors that I am forced to associate with at my advanced age, he is the only one who has a clue.

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