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    gogs is offline Junior Member
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    Default PTTP and KB swings

    I am used to performing kettlebell swings 3 mornings a week for 3-5 sets of 30-50 reps as my cardio (I weigh 145 lbs and swing the 24kg), and I have just started the PTTP Russian Bear deadlift cycle for the evenings of the same 3 days I swing. My concern is that the swings may lead to over training since the same muscle groups are used in both swings and deadlifts. Should the swings be cut out? If anyone could give me any incite or advice it would be very much appreciated. thanks.
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    It might be overtraining, due to the Bear being a high volume program. If you want to keep your swings, I would recommend doing straight PTP, with the 2x5. I actually had a session w/ an RKC today, and he said that swings in the AM (before work) and PTP @ night would be a great mix for overall strength and conditioning.
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    Default Really!?!?

    He said kettle bell swings in the mourning and Pttp in the evening.

    Did he say anything about taking it easy on the swings or any format for doing the swings to avoid over training. Or how many days a week. I'm really interested in doing swings with the Pttp.
    Last edited by eltriplesix; 04-14-2009 at 07:10 PM.

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    Hey guys for what its worth I do pttp 3 days a week and on 2-3 of my days off I do the ETK program minimum with a 24kg bell. 5 min of tgu's makes my whole body feel good and the swings are for my attempt at not being a fattie. I go 15-17 swings a minute on the minute x 12 for an idea on the number of swings per session. I'm talking straight pttp (with a couple of brief light warmup sets) not the bear. I don't feel overtrained at all. Keep the bell you are using light and you'll be good I think. There are a lot of guys with more experience than me that can answer this better though. I personally haven't had a problem and it fits my schedule with work and a 9 month old perfectly.

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    Somebody recently asked if they could combine the Program Minimum (which has lots of swings) with the Bear. Pavel recommended limiting swings to 2x20 twice a week while on the Bear. For what it's worth, I tried hanging on to high volume swinging when I started the Bear, and found it to be too much for me.
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