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    Default KB's for Basic Combat Training (Boot Camp)

    I am a Drill Sergeant and I want to start up KB training for my BCT Company. I am looking for suggestions on equipment needs, how many and how big, and maybe some exercises. There are about 60 persons per platoon ranging in strength/conditioning from very weak to decent. Any Ideas would be greatly appreciated.
    Plus, does dragon door offer discounts for military or large orders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyMc View Post
    I am a Drill Sergeant and I want to start up KB training for my BCT Company. I am looking for suggestions on equipment needs, how many and how big, and maybe some exercises. There are about 60 persons per platoon ranging in strength/conditioning from very weak to decent. Any Ideas would be greatly appreciated.
    Sir, equipment is one thing, training is another. What kind of training in basic technique training do you have in mind? That is the most critical part.

    To address your question more specifically, the average man starts with 16kg while most men will progress to 24kg. 20kg is a useful transition size to have around in case anyone has difficulty making the jump. Women will generally start with 18lbs and progress to 12kg.

    How many bells? It depends on whether you want to have the entire class working at once (in which case it would be 30-60 bells) or set up a "courage corner" for them to practice or rotate through (4-8 bells).
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    Wow, you can just implement your own training programs for your recruits? When I went through MCRD Parris Island, I got the impression from the plattoon "scribe" that everything was scheduled pretty much to the minute. Part of his "job" as scribe was writing out the DI's schedule every day on notecards that the DIs kept inside their campaign covers. According to him, even things such as which days the platoon would go in the sand pit for "incentive physical training" (aka: punishment) were scheduled. Of course, he was sworn to secrecy and never mentioned that part until we'd graduated boot camp and were at MCT. Man, things would have made so much more sense if we'd known; A lot fewer thoughts along the lines of, "We just demolished the rest of the company in [whatever] and now we're going to the pit? WTF!"

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    Andymc,

    Thanks a lot for getting this idea in motion. I really wish we had KB's when I was in Infantry BCT. So much of the PT did very little in terms of making strong soldiers. I remember going on and on about how great they were at my unit, and my words fell on deaf ears with the exception of one person. Hopefully you'll get the Army spurred in the right direction en mass.

    Mostly 16 and 20KG's with a few 24KG's for the men. Ladies will need 18lb, 12KG and probably some 10-14lbers as well. Best of luck!
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    For your needs 16 kg. bells will suffice for males. The most efficient way to do this would be partner drills or to use them in a circuit fashion to maximize the number of bells you have. The reason I don't say 20 or 24 kg. is that I'm assuming you only have them for a couple of months. If you're getting different size bells it becomes a guessing game and inevitably you'll have a bunch off to the side no one uses. I can condition anyone with a 12 kg. kettlebell, male or female, so it would stand to reason I can do the same with the 16 kg. and I really do have a 'one size fits all' kettlebell. For women lighter bells would be necessary.
    To instruct a large group you're really going to need a qualified instructor. Getting yourself to an HKC cert would work based upon my next recommendation. The last thing you need is 60 recruits doing swing with bad form and jacking themselves up.
    Swings and get ups. That's it. At the level you're training nothing else is required. Anything more is overkill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyMc View Post
    I am a Drill Sergeant and I want to start up KB training for my BCT Company. I am looking for suggestions on equipment needs, how many and how big, and maybe some exercises. There are about 60 persons per platoon ranging in strength/conditioning from very weak to decent. Any Ideas would be greatly appreciated.
    Plus, does dragon door offer discounts for military or large orders?
    Please contact Sr. RKC Sara Cheatham - she does on a regular basis what you're talking about, and has been training military groups for years with kb's. Her DVD is a good look into what that training would be about too.

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    Com. Andy, I suggest that you take the HKC instructor course this September. You will learn what you need.

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