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    jtsaint72 is offline Senior Member
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    Default Taming the Bulldog

    Currently, it's taming me!

    Right now, I'm swinging with it and that's about it. I did a half get up with it two weeks ago and my forearms are still a little sore! I followed the Kalos Stenos progression, to gradually ease into it.

    My main problem is I have skinny wrists and I feel like bearing 88 pounds on a 9 inch diameter with a 3 inch surface might not be the best idea in the world.

    That being said, is this just a simple matter of building strength and additional bone density over time?

    If so, anybody got any thoughts on how to do that safely and not turn into the "broken arm guy" form last week!

    Thanks in advance for the feedback,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtsaint72 View Post
    My main problem is I have skinny wrists and I feel like bearing 88 pounds on a 9 inch diameter with a 3 inch surface might not be the best idea in the world....

    If so, anybody got any thoughts on how to do that safely and not turn into the "broken arm guy" form last week!
    While there will always be some pressure against the arm, you should not feel like your forearms are bearing a large perpendicular force.

    Check your grip position. The bell should be very deep in your hand, down by the thumb and the handle at a slight downward angle towards the other side of your hand.

    Next, taping yourself if possible, check that your forearm is vertical through the entire movement. The more the forearm deviates from the vertical, the more the loads shifts from "through" your forearm to "against" your forearm.

    Good luck!
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    It wasn't quite the bulldog, but when I was recently working on pressing my 36 kilo, I experienced much of the same, I could clean it with atrocious form and it really battered my arms up for a bit. What I did was ladder up in weight doing swings with the 20, and 28 before swinging the 36. I also would press the 20, and the 28 before doing push presses with the 36. This let me play with my new toy and get used to the weight a little while minimizing the abuse I gave myself with the bad form. It also let me do 2 sets correctly before touching the heavier bell. One day I went straight to the 36 and I could do a few singles with it. It really surprised me.

    I know I only own bells in the tween sizes, I started with a 20 kilo and now I am stuck on em cause I don't want to make a 4 or 12 kilo jump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertSuckowRKC View Post
    While there will always be some pressure against the arm, you should not feel like your forearms are bearing a large perpendicular force.

    Check your grip position. The bell should be very deep in your hand, down by the thumb and the handle at a slight downward angle towards the other side of your hand.

    Next, taping yourself if possible, check that your forearm is vertical through the entire movement. The more the forearm deviates from the vertical, the more the loads shifts from "through" your forearm to "against" your forearm.

    Good luck!
    I got the grip position and the placement, I will try checking my vertical line with a lighter KB however, that's a good point. Maybe time for some more Shoe Get Ups and Water Bottle Get Ups! I like what you said about the load going through instead of against. I will keep that in mind next time.

    Realistically, I probably just rushed into it. A little too much, too soon. I've challenged myself to perform thirty 12 minute man makers with George (that's what I named my Bulldog) before attempting any other lifts with him. If the swing is perfect, so will be the rest! Right?

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    Shoot me a PM or email if you want to get together one day to square things away. I also have a 36kg you can tame.
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    I have tiny wrists too so I sympathize. Do remember however that pound for pound bone is horrendously strong (strongest pound for pound material on earth I believe). If aligned properly you wrists should easily handle 40kg. I saw on a program that the femur (I know it's not a wrist bone!) can handle a metric ton of force being applied to it, so I feel your bones will mock 40kg.

    If your wrist joint isn't aligned correctly then that is different. The bones of the hand and wrist will then be forced apart putting stress on the ligaments and tendons.

    Remember that broken arm guy broke his arm by the bell hitting his radius hard. It was impact force rather than dead weight which broke his arm. You shouldn't get this with presses or TGUs. As for cleans, I like to try and take the impact on the shoulder / bicep area rather than the wrist, as there is more muscle there for padding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmbarnes View Post
    As for cleans, I like to try and take the impact on the shoulder / bicep area rather than the wrist, as there is more muscle there for padding.
    One of the more remarkable yet relatively simple things accomplished kb'ers (RKCs and such) do is perform cleans where the weight just seems to stop effortlessly and weightlessly in the rack position. I watched and re-watched Pavel doing this on the ETK video, but it didn't really sink in until I saw Brett Jones do it in person, 3 feet in front of me. The difference between his rack and mine was night and day. I've been working on this, and I'm improving, but still nowhere near the level of many.

    All the more reason to encourage everyone to go see an RKC.

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    What is 9 inches in diameter ? Your wrist ? If that is the case my wrists are just over 71/2 inches. I have not had any trouble so far. Started cleaning the beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoplaten View Post
    One of the more remarkable yet relatively simple things accomplished kb'ers (RKCs and such) do is perform cleans where the weight just seems to stop effortlessly and weightlessly in the rack position. I watched and re-watched Pavel doing this on the ETK video, but it didn't really sink in until I saw Brett Jones do it in person, 3 feet in front of me. The difference between his rack and mine was night and day. I've been working on this, and I'm improving, but still nowhere near the level of many.

    All the more reason to encourage everyone to go see an RKC.
    *Sigh*... I too have the ETK DVD and Pavel makes it look too easy... I clean my 20KG and it seems like I'm putting alot more effort into it, and it ain't as smooth... The same applies to my golf swing... I can't swing like Ernie Els... practice makes perfect!
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