Click here to create or sign in to your Dragon Door account Click here to go to your Dragon Door shopping cart Click here to contact to Dragon Door

 
   
 

Go Back   Dragon Door Forums > Kettlebells, Strength & Conditioning Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 07-03-2009, 03:26 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 64
eltorrente is on a distinguished road
Default

I bought a pretty nice olympic barbell for about a 100bucks, and bought used weights at Play it Again Sports. Picked up a decent bench with spotter bars and uprights at Walmart. Worth every penny I paid. I've added adjustable dumbbells, a pullup bar, various grippers and miscellaneous equipment, and have recently bought my first KB.

My office has become my own personal gym, and I have everything I'll ever need without the hassle of a big, lame gym.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 07-03-2009, 11:41 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 27
stevviec is on a distinguished road
Default

Buy a kettlebell, you will get results very quickly, especially if you follow the enter the kettlebell book / dvd.

Alternatively, buy a barbell set and power to the people,

PTTP will give you strength and size gains and ETK will give you functional strength and conditioning that will translate very well to sport.

Listen to the party....
Buy the kettlebell....
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2009, 03:09 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 46
rmbarnes is on a distinguished road
Default

When it comes to building all round size and strength nothing can beat a well equipped gym. No gym can be classed as well equipped without at least one olympic barbell and hundreds of kilos of weight plates. No, the smith machine doesn't count, so your gym doesn't cut the mustard. It sounds like a place for woman and children, not somewhere men are made.

Kettlebells would be better than this gym. In terms of getting stronger, only a small percentage of men will be able to press a 24kg bell overhead. Fractions of a percent of the general population could do a pistol with a 24. Swings will help both your condtioning and build the explosive power in just the right places for a rugby tackle.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2009, 05:19 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 843
Blog Entries: 111
DrJAG2 will become famous soon enough
Default

IS this a Planet Fitness franchise? My old gym, Olympus, sold out to PF. They quickly got rid of the KBs and anything else useful. What they want is cardio machines and weight machines. All they care about is your money and as limited liability as they can create. Run, don't walk.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2009, 05:53 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 211
Chris Fleming is on a distinguished road
Default

Reminds me of when I moved to a new city and was looking for a gym. Sure, I have my portable gym (kettlebell) but I was missing my deadlift, squat, etc. I went to look at 24 Hour Fitness and I told the kid what I was looking for in a gym. He was unable to break out of his script as he showed me around, telling me about the bikes and treadmills when I had already told him they would never see me on one of those. Didn't really matter because there was no room to something like dead lifts anyway and I didn't see any squat racks, plus they said they dont' let people try the place out first. When you see something like that, you've got to run away because they are just wasting your time at that point.

I ended up at Gold's and they don't mess with me there. Some trainer even bought a 16 kilo bell along with all of the dinky weight ones. They don't know how to show someone what to do with it, but hey, at least they are trying.

Anyway, get that kettlebell and find a good gym. Don't sign up at a gym unless they have what you want and are willing to let you try it out first.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2009, 06:28 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 38
caberboy is on a distinguished road
Default Rugby Conditioning

AnthonyRees,

If your goal is to improve your rugby play, by getting bigger/stronger/faster, you need to drop that gym and invest in some kettlebells. That, combined with some standard, heavy implements like sandbags, rocks, poles, etc will be what you need. I played for 10 years, starting at the national level in college and ending with Superleague club play, and if I had known about kettlebells back then I would have been all over them. If you play in the backfield, you'll benefit from using them. If you play as a forward in the pack, you'll benefit from using them. Scrumhalf, flyhalf, it doesn't matter you can use them. Just the overall level of conditioning for your heart, back, ham-strings, glutes and quads will make you a better player, not to mention your upper body. I wish I had them when I was playing, We would have used them for conditioning if we knew about them. I believe there are even some articles on DragonDoor about kettlebells and rugby. Additionally, just look up "kettlebells for rugby" in Google and you'll find plenty.
Drop the gym, save your money and purchase some bells. Find a good RKC to show you how to use them and work hard. You'll be happy you did. Good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2009, 10:23 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 83
dpluslane1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnthonyRees View Post
ye maybe your right, i want to get bigger and stronger for rugby though, arent kettlebells mainy for conditioning?
Cancel your membership, buy a pair of kettlebells, and assuming you are familiar with Enter the Kettlebell and at least the program minimum, buy Return of the Kettlebell
__________________
Delaine Ross, RKC II, Z Health Level I

www.gymcondition.com
www.allaboutkettlebells.com

"Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect." -Vince Lombardi
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2009, 11:21 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,402
Blog Entries: 26
Steve B. is on a distinguished road
Default

Barbell+weight+kettlebells are probably the best gym investment you could make.
But you do need to learn how to use them first.
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:18 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Minot, ND
Posts: 279
Adam T Glass, RKC will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Yahoo to Adam T Glass, RKC
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnthonyRees View Post
Just signed up for my new gym, as everywhere else here as closed to accomadate for it. Thing is its all machines!!! and a smith machine!!!! they have a few DB's and a dip and pull up platform but thats it.

They have leg press, leg extensions and curls for lower body. Upper body they have chest press and shoulder press and certain rows and pull downs. they have DB's up to 40kg. They then have pull up and dip station, but u cant add weight as theres no belt. they also have a smith machine. Its like wat am i meant to gauge my progress on? smith machine squats and bench presses???

somebody help, theres no where else to train and ive never been in this dilema lol.
Why did you sign up???????
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:37 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 80
Blog Entries: 1
AnthonyRees is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam T Glass, RKC View Post
Why did you sign up???????
its the only gym in the town apart from a steroid freak show bodybuilding one that i dont really fancy going to.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:55 PM.

Top Ten RKC Instructors
by Review Ranking
See Top Twenty RKCs by Review
Rank Name Certification Reviews Average
1 Michael Krivka RKC Instructor 216 10.00
2 David Whitley Senior RKC Instructor 195 9.99
3 Jon Engum Senior RKC Instructor 184 9.98
4 Rannoch Donald RKC Instructor 147 9.83
5 Chuck Halbakken RKC II Instructor 139 9.96
6 Dr. Mark Cheng RKC Team Leader 124 10.00
7 Keira Newton RKC II Instructor 117 9.98
8 Brad Nelson Senior RKC Instructor 117 9.97
9 Jordan Vezina RKC Instructor 112 10.00
10 Jason Wood RKC Instructor 108 9.97
Top Ten Books/DVDs
by Review Ranking
See Top Twenty Books/DVDs by Review
Rank Book/DVD Type Reviews Average
1 Enter the Kettlebell! Book 179 9.80
2 The Kettlebell Goddess Workout DVD 122 9.11
3 Enter the Kettlebell! DVD 120 8.97
4 Viking Warrior Conditioning Book 92 9.46
5 Beyond Bodybuilding Book 89 9.67
6 The Naked Warrior Book 76 9.63
7 The Purposeful Primitive Book 76 9.38
8 Power to the People! Book 59 9.71
9 The Extreme Kettlebell Cardio Workout DVD 53 9.57
10 From Russia With Tough Love DVD 38 8.63
Top Ten Kettlebell Products
by Review Ranking
Rank Kettlebell Product Type Reviews Average
1 Enter the Kettlebell! Book 179 9.80
2 Russian Kettlebell - 16kg (35lb) Equipment 117 9.78
3 The Kettlebell Goddess Workout DVD 122 9.11
4 Enter the Kettlebell! DVD 120 8.97
5 Russian Kettlebell - 24kg (53lb) Equipment 78 9.88
6 Russian Kettlebell - 20kg (44lb) Equipment 49 9.73
7 From Russia With Tough Love DVD 38 8.63
8 Return of the Kettlebell Book 34 9.29
9 Resilient DVD 32 9.34
10 Russian Kettlebell - 12kg (26lb) Equipment 28 9.93
Site Search

McAfee Secure sites help keep you safe from identity theft, credit card fraud, spyware, spam, viruses and online scams
That's our gift to you, when you sign up today for Dragon Door's essential newsletters:
Power by Pavel —
Gain access to Pavel's inner secrets for the ultimate edge in physical performance and much more...

Ride the Leader's Wave—Be the first to KNOW, the first to BENEFIT, the first to SAVE on new releases, new workshops...

Join the Party—CEO John Du Cane keeps you updated on the world's most dynamic fitness movement...
Name
Email
Your email is safe with us


Fitness Nutrition Strength Kettlebell training Pavel Tsatsouline Health Nutrition weight loss
Order or Download
our free catalog


Featured Product

Return of the Kettlebell

Return of the Kettlebell
Book    DVD


The Certified Kettlebell-Functional Movement Specialist (CK-FMS) Home Study Course

The Certified Kettlebell-Functional Movement Specialist (CK-FMS) Home Study Course
15-DVD Set   


Viking Warrior Conditioning

Viking Warrior Conditioning
Book   


True Strength Yang

True Strength Yang
2-DVD Set   


Marty Gallagher's The Purposeful Primitive

Marty Gallagher's The Purposeful Primitive
Book   


"Pavel's Kettlebell Training System—
The Shortcut To Extreme Strength
and Elite Conditioning. Guaranteed. "

Enter The Kettlebell!, Strength Secret of the Soviet Supermen, Pavel Tsatsouline
Enter The Kettlebell!
Strength Secret
of the Soviet Supermen
Book  /  DVD   

Pavel's Beyond Stretching: The Seminar

Pavel's Beyond Stretching: The Seminar
5 DVD Set   

Andrea Du Cane's The Kettlebell Goddess Workout
Andrea Du Cane's The Kettlebell Goddess Workout
DVD   
See all Kettlebell sizes
Authentic Russian Kettlebells
Authentic Russian Kettlebells
See two new sizes:
44lb & 62lb


Beyond Bodybuilding
Beyond Bodybuilding, Muscle and Strength Training Secrets for The Renaissance Man, Pavel Tsatsouline
Muscle and Strength Training Secrets for The Renaissance Man
Book   

Working with Special Populations
Working with Special Populations By Andrea Du Cane, Senior RKC
DVD   

Corrective Strategies and Movement Screening
Corrective Strategies and Movement Screening By Brett Jones, Senior RKC
DVD   

Restoring Lost Physical Function
Restoring Lost Physical Function By Mark Reifkind, Senior RKC
DVD   

Advanced Strength Strategies
Advanced Strength Strategies By Kenneth Jay, Senior RKC
DVD   

The Staley/Tsatsouline Strength Seminar
The Staley/Tsatsouline Strength Seminar By Charles Staley and Pavel Tsatsouline
The Lazy Man's Guide to Extreme Strength Gains
DVD   
Fast & Loose
Fast & Loose, Secrets of the Russian Champions: Dynamic Relaxation Techniques for Elite Performance With Pavel, Pavel Tsatsouline
Secrets of the Russian Champions: Dynamic Relaxation Techniques for Elite Performance With Pavel
DVD   
Resilient
Resilient, Advanced Kettlebell Drills and Insider Secrets for Playing Harder & Hurting Less With Pavel Tsatsouline
Advanced Kettlebell Drills and Insider Secrets for Playing Harder & Hurting Less With Pavel
DVD   
The Naked Warrior
The Naked Warrior, Master the Secrets of the Super-Strong—Using Bodyweight Exercises Only, Pavel Tsatsouline
Master the Secrets of the Super-Strong—Using Bodyweight Exercises Only
Book    DVD


Russian Red Kettlebells

Authentic Russian Kettlebells
Russian Red Kettlebells   
Power to the People!
Power to the People!, Russian Strength Training Secrets For Every American, Pavel Tsatsouline
Russian Strength Training Secrets For Every American
Book   DVD

The Russian Kettlebell Challenge
The Russian Kettlebell Challenge, Xtreme Fitness for Hard Living Comrades, Pavel Tsatsouline
Xtreme Fitness for Hard Living Comrades
Book    DVD

From Russia with Tough Love
From Russia with Tough Love, Pavel's Kettlebell Workout for a Femme Fatale, Pavel Tsatsouline
Pavel's Kettlebell Workout for a Femme Fatale
Book    DVD

Relax Into Stretch
Relax Into Stretch, Instant Flexibility Through Mastering Muscle Tension, Pavel Tsatsouline
Instant Flexibility Through Mastering Muscle Tension
Book    DVD

Super Joints
Super Joints, Russian Longevity Secrets for Pain-Free Movement, Maximum Mobility & Flexible Strength, Pavel Tsatsouline
Russian Longevity Secrets for Pain-Free Movement, Maximum Mobility & Flexible Strength
Book    DVD

Bullet Proof Abs
Bullet Proof Abs, 2nd Edition of Beyond Crunches, Pavel Tsatsouline
2nd Edition of Beyond Crunches
Book   

Martial Power
Martial Power, Hard-Hitting Combat Secrets from the Russian Special Ops, Pavel Tsatsouline
Hard-Hitting Combat Secrets from the Russian Special Ops
DVD

More Russian Kettlebell Challenges
More Russian Kettlebell Challenges, 25 Evil Drills for Radical Strength and Old School Toughness, Pavel Tsatsouline
25 Evil Drills for Radical Strength and Old School Toughness
DVD

The Ab Pavelizer II
The Ab Pavelizer II, The fastest, safest way to a ripped powerhouse of six-pack muscle, Pavel Tsatsouline
The fastest, safest way to a ripped powerhouse of six-pack muscle
Pavelizer

John Du Cane's Qigong Recharge
John Du Cane's Qigong Recharge, A Daily Practice to Release, Relax and Rejuvenate, Pavel Tsatsouline
A Daily Practice to Release, Relax and Rejuvenate
Manual/DVD   
Fitness Nutrition Strength Kettlebell training Pavel Tsatsouline Health Nutrition weight loss
View samples from
Dragon Door DVDs