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    Jason Brightwell is offline Senior Member
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    Default What to do about a seized up back?

    My buddy was running on the treadmill the other day and bent over and put his arms on the treadmill to stretch out his back (not while he was running), and his lower back seized up (he hasn't been to the gym since).

    Any suggestions as to what he can do to loosen it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Brightwell View Post
    My buddy was running on the treadmill the other day and bent over and put his arms on the treadmill to stretch out his back (not while he was running), and his lower back seized up (he hasn't been to the gym since).

    Any suggestions as to what he can do to loosen it up?

    Thanks,
    Jason
    well, hmm. is he in pain?

    If so, go see a chiro to get out of pain, and then think about connecting with a ck-fms or z-health coach to get a sense of why that seize up happened and how to get some help to reduce the likelihood of it happening again.

    (and avoid treadmills wherever possible)

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    Definitely find a good chiropractor to get a diagnosis or at the very least rule out something serious. What did he describe the feeling as when it seized up? Was there a pain in any specific spot in his back when it happened? Had he been feeling it to any degree for any amount of time preceding the incident? If there was a pain, how would he describe it? (One big cramp, an icepick shoved into the spine, something just outta place) The answers to these questions could hold much more info than he realizes.
    A little over 8 years ago I jacked by back the same way. Well... not on a treadmill but bent over and leaned forward to grab something and BAM!! Bascially, my chiro told me that what it boiled down to was physically demanding jobs combined with me continuing to lift heavy weights like normal while ignorantly ignoring ab work. I don't ignore ab work anymore. I'm not saying that's what happened to him but that my incident came out of the blue but had been building up under my nose for quite a long period. Thankfully, I was back to 100% sooner than even my chiro expected and have stayed that way since.
    It'd probably be a good idea and play it safe until seeing the chiro. No more pain does not mean no more injury. It just means no more pain. Nothing else.
    Also, for future referrence, Pavel's Super Joints is excellent and may be able to help prevent any recurrences or something like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBeltMedic View Post
    It'd probably be a good idea and play it safe until seeing the chiro. No more pain does not mean no more injury. It just means no more pain. Nothing else.
    Also, for future referrence, Pavel's Super Joints is excellent and may be able to help prevent any recurrences or something like this.

    I'll take "no pain" over just about any other option every time

    Gotta go back to Gray Cook and Brett Jones before leaping onto a prescription here:

    the goal is not to build strength on top of dysfunction.

    The great thing is that you had a diagnosis, took on board what your chiro said about your abs and that worked. That's great that that worked for you.

    And likewise Anything can cause Anything

    So, an assessment of how you move is kinda important. It may show that there are issues in the core (not just the abs) that need to be better connected. Or not. It may show that what the issue was for this person has nothing to do with abs.

    IT may be that for whatever reason his body freaked out when he bent over - maybe his body sensed a lack of stability and panicked -resulting in an incredible and atypical spinal tension and shazam, back seizes up. Or maybe he has crappy hip mobility.

    WE DON'T KNOW

    only a movement assessment, looking at the whole person in motion - if you jive with what gray cook and eric cobb talk about - will help begin to unpack this and find solutions to reduce likelihood of recurrence.

    So while Super Joints or Relax Into Stretch or any other great pavel book are Good Things To Do for any person able to undertake such programs, is that *as a solution* really a solution or just building form on dysfunction?

    just a thought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mc View Post
    I'll take "no pain" over just about any other option every time

    Gotta go back to Gray Cook and Brett Jones before leaping onto a prescription here:

    the goal is not to build strength on top of dysfunction.

    The great thing is that you had a diagnosis, took on board what your chiro said about your abs and that worked. That's great that that worked for you.

    And likewise Anything can cause Anything

    So, an assessment of how you move is kinda important. It may show that there are issues in the core (not just the abs) that need to be better connected. Or not. It may show that what the issue was for this person has nothing to do with abs.

    IT may be that for whatever reason his body freaked out when he bent over - maybe his body sensed a lack of stability and panicked -resulting in an incredible and atypical spinal tension and shazam, back seizes up. Or maybe he has crappy hip mobility.

    WE DON'T KNOW

    only a movement assessment, looking at the whole person in motion - if you jive with what gray cook and eric cobb talk about - will help begin to unpack this and find solutions to reduce likelihood of recurrence.

    So while Super Joints or Relax Into Stretch or any other great pavel book are Good Things To Do for any person able to undertake such programs, is that *as a solution* really a solution or just building form on dysfunction?

    just a thought.


    mc
    I certainly don't disagree. I would just start with a chiro since the immediate involves the back. Hopefully, a (good, thorough) chiro can provide more info than a simple diagnosis. In either case identifying and correcting any contributing dysfunctoin should certainly be on the "Things To Do" list. In my case, I was lucky to have a good chiro in place. In fact, I still see him for routine adjustments.
    As for SJ, that suggestion was merely for preventive maintenace after the current issue is handled and not so much as a fix for the now. I just started (why only now I have no clue ) following SJ and can't believe how quick I've felt results. That's my exerience with it so far, at least.
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