Help Comrades! i dont understand this!

[fahrhb]

Yes i will listen to advice and try ladders on the snatch exercise.

On pistols, I can do these for sets of 5 with a 20kilo dumbell, very slow and high tension, so thats working well with 7-10 days frequency. I only began to make progress on these when cutting frequency-workout was 4x5 each side with 20 seconds rest-ie tabata style.Now going for heavier weights for 1 set after warmups.

[Pavel Tsatsouline]

Originally Posted by fahrhb

hi there.
I havent tried the ladder approach but i dont see how it can work.
Only a marginal intense effort produces growth so what purpose have all the other sub marginal reps? I tried pavels higher volume approach on the PTP programme and felt overtrained and weak all the time even when doing less than half potential reps. My best ever gains came from 1 set of presses, 1 set of deadlifts and 1 set of squats every 9 days-each exercise on a different day and not to failure but very heavy around 5 reps-so i was trying a similar low volume approach with KBs.

Com. fahrhb, your approach works for SQs and DLs; it is practically unheard of to up the MP strength on low volume and frequency. In the 1960s when weightlifers pressed the Russians typically pressed 5 times a week and failure was not in the picture.

[Paul Ke]

Out of curiosity, why the snatch/neg press instead of just press or snatch?

[fahrhb]

Did 3x 1,2,3 yesterday on 32KG KB Snatch-Negative Press and same on Pistols. I seem to have gotten a fair amount of strength back as this wasnt particularly hard. Lets see what happens.

In answer to comrade Paul, i do a snatch with a slow negative press to economise on exercises. Ie the idea is to carry out the prescribed heavy pulling movement and heavy pressing movement in one exercise.

At the moment, i am only doing one other main exercise-weighted pistols-and a 1 legged calfraise with 40KG every 3rd workout-currently building up to 20 reps, can now do 15, and then will work the calf movement movement very, very slowly to maintain progression with the same weight.

All of this is in keeping with my experience that the less I do the better i gain strength-hence a very abbreviated routine.