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    Girya_Owl is offline Junior Member
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    Default Any traditional Japanese or Okinawan Karate. . .

    Are there any practitioners of traditional Japanese or Okinawan Karate out there who use KBs for strength and conditioning? I would particularly like to hear from someone active in JKA Shotokan, Isshin-ryu or Shobayashi Shorin-ryu.

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    I did RyuKyu Kempo in Oyata's organization from 1986-1989.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girya_Owl View Post
    Are there any practitioners of traditional Japanese or Okinawan Karate out there who use KBs for strength and conditioning? I would particularly like to hear from someone active in JKA Shotokan, Isshin-ryu or Shobayashi Shorin-ryu.
    I train in Shudo Kan. I'm not sure if it'd fall under the banner of "traditional" (I can explain but it'd take too long. International Shudokan Karate home ) but it is based, ultimately, in Okinawan Shorin Ryu although the exact curriculum varies from school to school. Our school incorporates boxing, kickboxing with elements of muay thai, classic jujistu, judo, grappling and a tad of aikido. I'd say for this - and really just about any style - you could get a lot of good work by using just the PM from ETK and the application principles of tension strength to improve technique by knowing when to be loose, when to be tense to add force and power but also maintain speed and fluidity.
    [I][B]"What don't kill ya make ya more strong"[/B][/I]

    [B][I]"...nothing good comes without work and a certain amount of pain."[/I][/B]
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    I study an old-style of Tae kwon-do, which is very similar to traditional Shotokan, with the addition of a few different kicks. It is nothing like the Olympic-style Taekwondo. I have been a 2nd dan for many years, but will be testing for 3rd in Sept.

    We do not wear padding of any sort, and do hyungs (kata), basics, breaking and takedowns every single workout.

    I have found kettlebell training to be the only form of supplementary exercise that can simulate full-power hyung practice or a sparring match.

    I have also studied other forms of ground control techniques and impact weapons. My first style of martial art was Shorin Ryu, when I was a kid. I also practiced Kyokushin, briefly, as well as full-contact olymipic-style TKD.

    On of my favorite workouts is to perform 1 hyung, full-out, then pick up a 24kg kettlebell and snatch it for 20 reps, then rest 1 minute. If I go all-out, then I am done by the time I pick up the kettlebell, and it is a real gut-check to get through the 20 snatches.

    I have 14 hyungs at this point so it that equals 280 snatches. If I don't slack, I can do this in about 40 minutes. I usually have nothing left afterwards.

    Give it a shot for your next kata practice and see the results.

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    sicklameandlazy is offline Senior Member
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    I noticed after about 2 months of doing the PM that Sumo squats and 2 hand swings 15 minutes before Muay Thai made my kicks feel so smooth. A medic told me that s the KB works that pelvic floor area unlike anything he had ever tried in the past.

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    I haven't put on a gi for about 3 years, but I graded to 3rd Dan with the KUGB just before they split from the JKA. I graded to 2nd Dan under Enoeda Sensi (JKA).
    It was karate that led me to Pavel's work.
    KBs will work, you just need to bablance the about of S&C you do with the time you spend in the dojo. The program minimum in ETK is the best place to start.

    Oss

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    Quote Originally Posted by stratcat View Post
    I study an old-style of Tae kwon-do, which is very similar to traditional Shotokan, with the addition of a few different kicks. It is nothing like the Olympic-style Taekwondo. I have been a 2nd dan for many years, but will be testing for 3rd in Sept.

    We do not wear padding of any sort, and do hyungs (kata), basics, breaking and takedowns every single workout.

    I have found kettlebell training to be the only form of supplementary exercise that can simulate full-power hyung practice or a sparring match.

    I have also studied other forms of ground control techniques and impact weapons. My first style of martial art was Shorin Ryu, when I was a kid. I also practiced Kyokushin, briefly, as well as full-contact olymipic-style TKD.

    On of my favorite workouts is to perform 1 hyung, full-out, then pick up a 24kg kettlebell and snatch it for 20 reps, then rest 1 minute. If I go all-out, then I am done by the time I pick up the kettlebell, and it is a real gut-check to get through the 20 snatches.

    I have 14 hyungs at this point so it that equals 280 snatches. If I don't slack, I can do this in about 40 minutes. I usually have nothing left afterwards.

    Give it a shot for your next kata practice and see the results.
    are you well hyung?

    Works well for judo too the snatches

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    My kettlebell student in Japan still practices Denryu Hyoho (founder - Choki Motobu 1870-1944), one of the big three Ryukyu (Okinawa) Karate.

    I talk to him once in a while. A harsh critique of mine and my best kettlebell student as well.

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    I've been doing Okinawan karate for over 24 years and having lifted weights in a regular gym for many years, I saw very little carry over in improving my karate following a body building type routine.
    Since finding kettlebells, I have found that this type of lifting really has improved my karate. In my paticular style of karate, we really use our hips more than most.
    Every strike, block, kick, or step is acompanied with some specific pelvic movement.
    Using kettlebells will improve the relax-tense-relax, as well as increase power (without losing speed, which happened to me on a bodybuilding type routine).

    AL

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    Sad loss of Sensei Enoeda. Kanazawa Sensei always speaks highly of him.

    I know Frank left some time back but does Terry O. still come to the Triangle Dojo?

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