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    wv2de is offline Senior Member
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    Default Need help with my neighbor - approx 60 years old

    My neighbor is around 60 years old, and has shown some interest (unprovoked) in using kettlebells to get stronger, lose fat, and also wants to improve his grip (I guess he has some mild arthritis in his fingers, but he can function ok). He works delivering medicine and sometimes tires, so he is mobile and can move ok. I'm more than willing to show him a couple things, but I have no qualification whatsoever. I am going to mee with an RKC next week to work on my own form, and will hold off helping him until after that.

    I thought about having him do getups with no weight (maybe 4-6 reps) and bodyweight squats to a comfortable depth (maybe sets of 5-10 with 30 sec rests for 3-5 minutes) to get him started and used to the movements before pickup up any actual weight. In addition, I may try and talk him into seeing a doctor for a general checkup and to ask about doing more work than that.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?

    Suggestions for drills to help loosen up his fingers and restore ROM?

    Thanks,
    wv

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    Quote Originally Posted by wv2de View Post
    My neighbor is around 60 years old, and has shown some interest (unprovoked) in using kettlebells to get stronger, lose fat, and also wants to improve his grip (I guess he has some mild arthritis in his fingers, but he can function ok). He works delivering medicine and sometimes tires, so he is mobile and can move ok. I'm more than willing to show him a couple things, but I have no qualification whatsoever. I am going to mee with an RKC next week to work on my own form, and will hold off helping him until after that.

    I thought about having him do getups with no weight (maybe 4-6 reps) and bodyweight squats to a comfortable depth (maybe sets of 5-10 with 30 sec rests for 3-5 minutes) to get him started and used to the movements before pickup up any actual weight. In addition, I may try and talk him into seeing a doctor for a general checkup and to ask about doing more work than that.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?

    Suggestions for drills to help loosen up his fingers and restore ROM?

    Thanks,
    wv
    Hello, wv:

    Certainly you should encourage your Sechzigjährige to see the doctor first. It then would be nice if, once cleared by the MD, you could take your neighbor along to your appointment with the RKC.

    While I cannot improve on your guess---through the ether---that your neighbor has "some mild arthritis in his fingers," the wrist, hand, and finger mobility drills from Z-Health R-Phase could improve his ROM. Do you have any Z-Health material? What about a Z-Trainer in your area?

    To reiterate: do not do anything with your friend until he sees the doctor . . . please.

    Viel Erfolg, Kamerad wv!

    Regards,
    Peter.

    PS: It's a shot in the dark, but I am an RKC and Z-Health R-Phase certified. Ah, Germany is so beautiful in summer! (Auch spreche ich ein bißchen Deutsch.)

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    ETK is a good way to begin. I started that way last year at 55. Emphasize the slow and steady approach A few swings, start with TGUs, begin naked i.e no weight. This year I'm working with my 24 kg and about to order the next one up!
    Jon Kasik
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    wv2de is offline Senior Member
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    Peter,
    I'll definitely recommend that he sees a doctor before doing anything, and I did mention it when we talked. I actually haven't had him do anything yet - we just talked about so far. I'm pretty worried about telling him to move around any actual weight, but he has fair mobility, and delivers boxes and tires, so I figure a few parital bodyweight squats and naked getups might be ok. The more I'm thinking about it, though, it would be better to start off with doing just two or three max on either to start to make sure it won't be bad.

    I don't have any of the z-health material, but I recommended the fist drill from super joints for maybe 10 reps each day to start, building up from there. Again, I'm hesitant to really offer much advice to anyone, much less an older gentleman...

    I won't be able to take him with me to Munich, unfortunately, as I scheduled that around a business trip and he works too late in the day during the week anyway. I'd love to fly you out for a private session, but the finances say it's out of my range, sorry .

    Anyway, I'll try and get him to go to the doctor before doing anything - but I'm not sure if I'll be successful - he's a stubborn old goat .



    Kasik,
    Thanks for the encouragement, and congrats on your success! Could you give me a better idea of how you started out (reps, rest periods, etc.)?


    Thanks!
    wv

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    I didn't keep a record for the first two months of what I did, but as I recollect, I started with box squats and a couple sets of 5 2 handed swings with my 16 kg bell for the first week or two. I also started as Pavel advises doing the first parts of the TGU. I wondered if I would ever get it. I trained Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I made sure to do it slow and steady and worked into the program minimum and after about two month could do TGUs Swings both one and two handed and a few clean and presses.

    I also teach Tai Chi, so I knew the importance of going slowly to make sure form was correct. At two months I did a private session with and RKC and that helped tighten my form further.

    I hope this helps.
    Jon Kasik
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    Kasik,
    Thanks for the extra info - it will definitely help!

    wv

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