
11-20-2009, 05:18 PM
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BIG and SMALL
I would like to compare the potential of one individual to build big muscles and the same individual to build lean muscles but both with that person being at the same strength..
here are the factors I can think of... PLEASE ADD when you can.
-BIG= > fatigue
> short breaks between sets
-SMALL= 'the opposite of big'
Now here I think are workout specific reasons... PLEASE ADD when you can.
-BIG= > strength endurance without necessary strength and skill in strength [SMALL strength and skill in strength]
> breaks between sets +- 1-5min. [SMALL 5-10min.]
> movement and muscular inefficiency (leading closer and quicker to fatigue) [SMALL relaxation and strength skill for efficiency]
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11-20-2009, 08:31 PM
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Here is a larger factor.
Big- Eating more.
Small- Eating less.
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11-20-2009, 08:55 PM
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Big = More volume. You can have as much rest as you want. More volume at lower intensity. 65-75% 1RM.
Small = Less volume. As much rest as you want. Less volume at higher intensities, normally at 75-100% 1 RM.
*Both can have great skill in movement proficiency, both can be strong depending on how you define strong. Because of overall volume of "big," they tend to be able to last longer muscular endurance wise. Because of the overall intensity of "small", they tend to be able to display higher levels of strength.
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11-20-2009, 08:56 PM
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and yeah I forgot the eating as well. :-) Basically what Jordan said.
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11-20-2009, 10:24 PM
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big muscles same strength - big food - genes
small muscles same strength - small food- genes.
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11-20-2009, 11:35 PM
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How would you define Big and Small.For example Mike Tyson is compared to some big(lets say Pavel-everybody knows him  ) and compared to others small(lets say Brock Lessnar) small.So,how would you define Big and Small?
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11-21-2009, 02:03 AM
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1. ok, i understand the 'volume' business- so does that mean to stay slim with kettlebells you would change to a heavier kettlebell, when the current KB becomes too easy, to maintain your size (eg. slim)?
2. my comparison is me, whether I fill out my t-shirt or not, I'd prefer to stay slim because I can build pretty easily..
3. I understand genes are a factor but what if I want to stay slim when I could easily get big? what do I stay away from is what I'm saying..
4. now I get the strength endurance is present with bigger muscles but translating this away from kettlebells and taking them to say the battlefield, whre is the balance? I mean when you are bigger you now have more to feed and more to carry/ run with etc.- does the strength endurance not start to become less effective and more redundant over time?
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11-21-2009, 05:10 AM
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Eric
If you can easily get big me and about 99.9 % of humanity implore you to do so because we cannot do it with such ease. Take one for the team. If you want to look like an underwear model reguardless of you natural inclination for massive bulk then just do lots and lots of reps with light weights, eat very little, try not to sleep, and run daily. Or am i mistaken here? Saying i dont want to gain size(in all the right places mind you) is like worrying about winning the lottery because of the taxes you'll have to pay. What taxes? Or do we just have different definitions of big? Do you litterally get so massively muscular that people dont describe you as "slim"? Oh no! Think about what you're saying here.
1)muscle size is not that easy to gain. Dont worry.
2)get stronger by lifting progressivly heavier things. That simple.
3) I'm sorry if i come off like an A$%h@le. This just kind of caught me off guard..
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11-21-2009, 05:50 AM
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WTF is all this garbage?
eric - what the hell is your point?
buy power to the people, beyond bodybuilding, and return of the kettlebell. now you know everything you need to know about getting big and strong or strong and not big.
I am so unbelievable happy that you are able to just put on muscle by sneezing. It must be a terrible life to live, constantly puttting on muscle when all you want to do is to remain slim and sleek. I am sure there is a support group somewhere. perhaps crossfit? many of those guys are thin and whispy, well at least the ones that follow crossfit religiously.
and battlefield??? are you in the military or joining the military?? what is this about the battlefield.
good luck and I hope you manage to avoid your muscle gain.
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11-21-2009, 06:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eric8
I would like to compare the potential of one individual to build big muscles and the same individual to build lean muscles but both with that person being at the same strength..
here are the factors I can think of... PLEASE ADD when you can.
-BIG= > fatigue
> short breaks between sets
-SMALL= 'the opposite of big'
Now here I think are workout specific reasons... PLEASE ADD when you can.
-BIG= > strength endurance without necessary strength and skill in strength [SMALL strength and skill in strength]
> breaks between sets +- 1-5min. [SMALL 5-10min.]
> movement and muscular inefficiency (leading closer and quicker to fatigue) [SMALL relaxation and strength skill for efficiency]
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That's what she said.......
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