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    danfaz is offline Senior Member
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    Default Slight Leg Lift on TGU

    Hey gang,

    When I do a getup with my left arm, my right leg pops up a bit on the initial push to the elbow.

    How can I remedy this? I'm sure this has been asked numerous times, but I did a search & there were like 377 pages matching my search

    Thanks!

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    When my leg comes up I point the toe and that seems to shift just enough weight to hold the leg down.

    Is your shoulder in the proper position. If you let the shoulder come up, your upper body goes down, and that will also shift your weight and make the leg pop up.
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    One other thing I can think of. You may be trying to set up instead of pushing yourself up the elbow ramp. That is my own term, ramp, :-) but that is what it feels like to me when I do it.
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    Thanks, Gary! I'll review my form & see if I'm lifting my shoulder.

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    i stopped doing that by focusing on keeping my leg down with a lighter weight. after a lot of practice with a lighter weight with good form, i was able to go back and do heavier wieghts without my foot coming off the ground...

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    I didn't understand that bit about the shoulder-- I always thought keeping the leg down is a core activation thing.
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    Well if your shoulder goes up in position 2 or not compacted down, the upper body actually goes down, lower towards the floor. If your upper body shifts down it would cause the balance to shift towards the upper body and if weight shifts towards the upper body the leg will come up, or at least if you are TGUing enough weight it will.

    Raise the upper body and the weght shifts to the lower body and the leg goes down. Like a sea saw. .

    I don't know about the core activation and the leg, I will look in my manual though and see what it says. Be right back, :-)
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    Well the foot coming up is not specifically addressed.

    There is info from Dr. Cheng and Dr. Stuart McGill about position 2 in the TGU though.

    Dr. Cheng talks about packing the shoulder and elongating the sternum in position 2. Although he does not specifically say this is to activate the core, but I think that is what happens. Although he does use the term linkage and activating the lats all through the handout.

    The beginning of the TGU chapter does talk about torso stiffness and driving the extremities.

    Dr. McGill talks about leakage related to a soft core during the get up. As in leakage vs linkage. He also talks about the position of the foot and concentric and eccentric contractions stopping leakage or causing it, but I am not sure he is taking about positon 2 or just in general throughout the TGU.

    You sort of need to read the whole chapter all together for it to make sense really.
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    lots to consider, thanks for all the insight!

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    Don't point the toes but pull them back and then really elongate the straight leg like you are trying to drive your heel through something and that should help take care of the problem.

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