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    Neelym is offline Junior Member
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    Default Please Critique Snatch Form

    Hello,

    Any advice on improving my form would be greatly appreciated.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVQSPmvhyK0

    Respectfully,

    Neely

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    Hi Neely,

    Not bad at all as a starting point. Here's a couple of things I noticed that could help make it even better:

    1. More hip snap. Think the difference between pushing something as hard as you can versus throwing a punch. Snap your hips like your throwing a punch, not just forceful, but fast.

    2. Looks to me like you're pressing the bell a bit too much; I would concentrate on getting the arc a little closer to your body coming up, maybe practice some swings to high pulls to snatches and see if that helps to get the feel. The punch up at the end should basically be just a redirecting of the bell, not a military press.

    3. Coming down looks pretty good, but you could tame the arc even more, keep the bell a little closer to your body and it would be more energy efficient; in addition, it would take a little less time.

    You're definitely on the right track with it, keep at it. Let me know if you have any questions as well.

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    I was waiting to hear from the seniors on this. I thought his (OP) shoulders were coming right off the sockets at the top. Does anyone think this observation is incorrect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambodoc View Post
    I was waiting to hear from the seniors on this. I thought his (OP) shoulders were coming right off the sockets at the top. Does anyone think this observation is incorrect?
    Your observation is not incorrect, Ram. Our comrade is using a 12kg bell. A heavier bell should fix that glitch in his form.

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    I notice a lot of people don't like to get there back down so that it is level with the ground. Is that as far as your hamstring flexibility will let you bend over? If not then you should work on getting lower. Better form now and more volume later, right? Work more muscle and later build more strength
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neelym View Post
    Hello,

    Any advice on improving my form would be greatly appreciated.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVQSPmvhyK0

    Respectfully,

    Neely
    Not too too bad....a good start.

    Here are some things that will help

    1. Set up. You feet are to close together. During the back swings your knees go forward and out to clear room for the bell. That causes your hips to go more down than back. Guess what you can't do from that position: Engage the hips. You will never get optimal hip snatch with your set

    2. Because of your set up, the bell goes forward to much instead of forward and up. You have to start your pull back/up below waist instead of above it. This is causing....

    3. Since you are pulling from so low, your arm is leaving the socket. This also means for longer sets you grip will tire out earlier. When the pull is equal "back" and "up", the arm is forced to stay in the socket.

    4. Also, you are not "punching through" quite fast enough. Some reps wee better than other. Easy fix: finish at the top with an open hand. This means that you have to move fast and you won't overgrip the bell, saving your hands for longer sets.

    5. The open hand at the top will also fix a slight "cast" of the bell at the top. You are pushing the bell a little out in front of you. If you keep an open hand at the top, simply break the elbow and the bell path will take care of itself.

    Congrats on posting a video...there is always something new to learn...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eltriplesix View Post
    I notice a lot of people don't like to get there back down so that it is level with the ground. Is that as far as your hamstring flexibility will let you bend over? If not then you should work on getting lower. Better form now and more volume later, right? Work more muscle and later build more strength
    eltriplesix

    Am I reading this correctly, when you snatch you bend at the waist so that your back is parallel to the ground? Do you have a video?

    Here is a pretty varied group and Valery is the only one coming close to "level with the ground"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffu4Q70HTGs

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    No need for a video of me. You can open up The Russian Kettle bell Challenge to page 51 for picture perfect snatching technique. That kind of techniqe is going to be harder on your muscles but should pay off. Am I mistaken? Parallel with the ground I mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eltriplesix View Post
    No need for a video of me. You can open up The Russian Kettle bell Challenge to page 51 for picture perfect snatching technique. That kind of techniqe is going to be harder on your muscles but should pay off. Am I mistaken? Parallel with the ground I mean?
    Hello, eltriplesix:

    Page 51, ETK, depicts the Chief Instructor demonstrating the "Towel Swing."

    Go to page 116 for the Snatch set-up.

    Nevertheless, the point Ken is making---I think---is that the many variations (degrees) of trunk flexion by the gireviks, as shown in the video, has much less bearing on successful snatching, than the effort of their hip-snap applied to the bell. Watch it again. You'll see.

    @ Ken

    Thanks for posting the video. However, the singer(s) exhibit an attitude that can be "corrected" by three days outside at RKC Instructor School.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eltriplesix View Post
    You can open up The Russian Kettle bell Challenge to page 51 for picture perfect snatching technique.
    Quote Originally Posted by PeterHuntRKC View Post
    Page 51, ETK, depicts the Chief Instructor demonstrating the "Towel Swing."
    So what on page 51 of VWC???? (sorry had to.)

    My understanding is the degree of trunk flexion has more to do with body lengths (limbs/torso ratio) then good snatch technique. I do know that bending at the waist is not right; you want all the ‘bending’ to come from the hips.

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