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    Steve Freides is offline Senior Member
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    A b/u snatch is also a b/u swing - think about it! I've done them - fine movement but serves no particular purpose not better served by other means, says me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eltriplesix View Post
    Ok.
    You guys always ask what your goal is. My goal is to be as strong as that guy.
    Advise?
    Buy a bottle of mutant pills. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShuriteKempo View Post
    Buy a bottle of mutant pills. :-)
    Ok. Here's my credit card and address. I'll take one please
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    ShuriteKempo - not to pick on you, but don't you think it's a bit silly to say "I think you would need to slow the movement down" and then "I was right" when you watched a video? Did you consider grabbing a kettlebell and trying it yourself?

    Having done so, you definitely don't need to slow it down that much. He's moving 50kg for god's sake. Most people can't even snatch that. Give him a 16kg and I bet he'll throw it up there quick smart. Yes, the technique does change and you can't make it quite as explosive, but I don't think John's 50kg demo represents the required speed for any and all bottoms-up snatching.

    That having been said, I agree there isn't much value in it. Works your grip a bit harder, but heavy bottoms-up presses will be better for that anyway, without detracting from the natural value of the movement (as happens when you turn your snatches bottoms-up).
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    No I don't think I am the least bit silly. But thanks anyway.
    The Do of Kempo
    Think of yourself as a bladed weapon that requires sharpening daily. Remember the finest edge will dull the quickest, so don’t rest on past accomplishments, keep training. As your technique becomes sharper your skills will be more difficult to improve, then you must increase the realism and intensity of your training. To live the martial way one must train their entire lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumaru View Post
    ShuriteKempo - not to pick on you, but don't you think it's a bit silly to say "I think you would need to slow the movement down" and then "I was right" when you watched a video? Did you consider grabbing a kettlebell and trying it yourself?

    Having done so, you definitely don't need to slow it down that much. He's moving 50kg for god's sake. Most people can't even snatch that. Give him a 16kg and I bet he'll throw it up there quick smart. Yes, the technique does change and you can't make it quite as explosive, but I don't think John's 50kg demo represents the required speed for any and all bottoms-up snatching.

    That having been said, I agree there isn't much value in it. Works your grip a bit harder, but heavy bottoms-up presses will be better for that anyway, without detracting from the natural value of the movement (as happens when you turn your snatches bottoms-up).

    That seems to be the impression which I have been having that while it might be useful for your grip, it does seem to detract from the value of the movement - as you put it here. Especially the punch up seems to be less explosive.

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