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    wv2de is offline Senior Member
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    Default RKC Snatch Test Question

    What are approved methods of switching hands for the snatch test? I'm working on my snatch test groove and figured it could add up to a few reps in the end. Thanks.

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    I asked about this before my cert since Jordan had just put up a video of his version of the downhill transfer, where you momentarily have two hands on the bell on the backswing while switching, and I was curious whether it was legal for the test.

    Pavel replied that it was okay, and anything not specifically prohibited by the rules is allowed.

    HOWEVER, at my cert I started my test by using the David Whitley downhill transfer, which admittedly I was a little sloppy at. The assistant counting my reps told me to transfer using an extra swing and I did so for the rest of the test (I wasn't about to start arguing!) .

    So the default is to take an extra swing and transfer hand to hand style at the top of the swing. If you want to use another method, it should be okay, but it is a good idea to clear it with your team leader and/or the person judging your reps.
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    Thanks for sharing your experience. Hopefully I'll be in good enough shape to do well over 100 and it won't matter either way. I've been using a swing to change hands in practice up 'til now. I might experiment a little with some different transfers so I'm profecient with at least one if it is allowed when I test. I get in a breathing groove when snatching, and the transfer swing always throws me off...

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    The only thing with the snatch test is that if you drop the bell, you are automatically disqualified. I suggest doing the 1 arm swing transfer, its nice because it gives you a brief break in between the snatching. You can also set the kb down during this without being disqualified but that loses alot of time. I suggest the transfer and rest in the top position of the snatch instead of setting the bell down. You will get your 100 reps this way.
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    It does take practice to do, but when you are shooting for a very high number of reps and don't have moments to spare to do an extra swing, you can learn to transfer from one hand to the other on the way down.

    From the top position when you cast the bell forward you release your hand and grab it with the other as it falls. Now I do tons of kettlebell juggling so this is a real easy move for me but I think anyone get get this groove with a little practice. The big tip is to keep your hand close and ready so it doesn't have to travel far. And start light.

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    The only rule I know of is don't drop it. You could actually sit it down on the floor with the left and then pick it back up with the right if you want to.

    The safest transfer is probably the change swing. Also you won't run into the problem the above post talks about, someone telling you to do it that way.

    I am one of those guys that trys not to do things too different during a test.
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    I'm not a big fan of the "switch on the drop" style of hand-switching.

    It's fine, I guess, IF you can do it well, but most (like 95%) of the RKC-candidates I saw using it at the Sept. cert, looked like they were BARELY keeping the bell from rocketing into the ground. To top it off, it looked like they were damn close to tearing a bicep in the process. I've never seen either happen, and knock on wood never will, but they certainly could.

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    just remember about the "no dropping" rule. if you don't have that hand switch to the point where you could do it in your sleep you risk dropping it. its a bit different when you have the critical eye on ya
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    As there has been a lot of good advice to the OP, I thought I would ask a question of the RKCs - have you seen anyone do the Test using only one hand, no switching ? (Having both hands, fully able otherwise)

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    You should be able to use any method of transfer so long as you aren't snatching the bell up with two hands.
    That being said, if your S&C is where it should be you should not have a problem just using an extra swing to switch.

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