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    johnbeamon is offline Senior Member
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    Default "In the RKC Manual"

    I am an HKC, not an RKC. In the last few weeks, I have seen the phrase "in the RKC manual" a number of times. There have been numerous DD threads technique and an article on RKC and Z-Health today in the Power By Pavel Newsletter. "In the RKC manual, there are many corrective exercises and drills to facilitate your skill." That newsletter is publicly available to kettlebell enthusiasts, certified or not, as are the discussions on this forum, but Dr Cobb's article today is incomplete for lack of the manual. I don't know where else to air this question.

    Is it possible for the corrective drills in the RKC manual to be made more widely available? I would even understand if it was made available only after completion of the HKC to validate the customer's commitment and a financial return for DD. I understand the protection of intellectual property and the line of business for RKC trainers, but this is at least the third time I've personally seen a public discussion refer back to this document that most of us can't get. This would never fly in an actual teaching situation or a workshop led by an RKC.

    At the very least, can Dr Cobb actually document examples of the corrective drills he would recommend as an appendix to his fine article in the newsletter, to be followed in the future by our experts here on the public forum?
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    That entire thread was removed from the forum on or around August 26. I've been an HKC and an active, outspoken member in good standing for some 3yrs now, but I don't support this sort of censorship. Look for me on the public web.

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    Great point!
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    Commrade John. There are many drills that are used and taught within the RKC that are out there on the market. All of Gray Cook and Brett Jones "Secrets" DVDs and the Kalos Sthenos DVD have great drills and corrections for improving shoulder/hip mobility and working on trunk stability to help increase ones performance with exercise technique.

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbeamon View Post
    I am an HKC, not an RKC. In the last few weeks, I have seen the phrase "in the RKC manual" a number of times. There have been numerous DD threads technique and an article on RKC and Z-Health today in the Power By Pavel Newsletter. "In the RKC manual, there are many corrective exercises and drills to facilitate your skill." That newsletter is publicly available to kettlebell enthusiasts, certified or not, as are the discussions on this forum, but Dr Cobb's article today is incomplete for lack of the manual. I don't know where else to air this question.

    Is it possible for the corrective drills in the RKC manual to be made more widely available? I would even understand if it was made available only after completion of the HKC to validate the customer's commitment and a financial return for DD. I understand the protection of intellectual property and the line of business for RKC trainers, but this is at least the third time I've personally seen a public discussion refer back to this document that most of us can't get. This would never fly in an actual teaching situation or a workshop led by an RKC.

    At the very least, can Dr Cobb actually document examples of the corrective drills he would recommend as an appendix to his fine article in the newsletter, to be followed in the future by our experts here on the public forum?
    Are there corrective drills in your HKC manual? From the videos and pictures I've seen of HKCs, they are the same as the ones in the RKC manual regarding the squat, swing and get-up.

    Experiment with them and see which ones make your swing, squat or get-up better. Those are the ones you should do.

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    Comrade John, the RKC manual is regularly updated to reflect changes in the RKC itself, which is always improving, always evolving. One of the reasons RKC's are required to recertify every two years is so that they can stay current, and part of that includes getting the latest manual.

    If you want the manual, you must attend the RKC.

    Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

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    Com. John, the RKC manual is available exclusively to RKCs and discussions of the sort that you mention take place on the RKC forum.

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    Default 2 ways to get access to RKC corrective drills ...

    1. train with an RKC who earned the manual
    2. become an RKC yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFreides View Post
    Comrade John, the RKC manual is regularly updated to reflect changes in the RKC itself, which is always improving, always evolving. One of the reasons RKC's are required to recertify every two years is so that they can stay current, and part of that includes getting the latest manual.

    If you want the manual, you must attend the RKC.

    Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

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    The required re-certification every two years is one of the reasons I like this discipline so much. The world is constantly evolving and fitness is no different. Information that was thought to be correct a few years ago may no longer be correct.

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    Keep in mind, even though the article was public, it was addressed to: RKC Practitioners

    John, the mere mention of "RKC manual" in a "public" forum post or article does not entitle the public to have access to the article.
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    I think the OP's question is about correction routines, not trying to get the prize without doing the work. You may now safely loosen your collective sweaty death-grips around your magic tome of secret maneuvers.

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