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    JasonL.Ac. is offline Senior Member
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    One man's cult is another man's CCult Both gym movement and CC have some good ideas to offer, neither is the be-all-end-all that some of its adherent's claim. Nor do I think they're even neccesarily mutually exclusive, as Josh's post shows. Nor is either mutually exclusive with ROP, GS, PTTP, kbftgu, etc.

    Bottom line for me is, Josh is a very strong dude who can do a lot of cool things, and is great at teaching others to do so as well. Ditto all of that for Jim Bathurst (the model for CC). Anytime either one of them is willing to talk about how they train, how they approach learning a new skill, etc, I'm all ears. They're also both terrifically nice guys as well, very friendly and generous with sharing their knowledge.

    I agree with everything Oldboy said above (as usual). We recently had some great threads with GS and RKC methodology coming a little closer together and understanding each other a bit better; I'd like to see more of that spirit on the forum.

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    He did a chin up with two arms and lowered himself 25% with one arm. That is a long way from a one arm chin up. Good for him for training though.
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    I did one arm chins in my younger days. Why?
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    Once upon a time this forum was patronized by men.

    Men who discussed strength training.

    There was a guy named Trend who was constantly coming up with new ideas about deadlifting and power breathing, and there was always an interesting new discussion about some new technique or another.

    Now, every time I visit these forums I see controversy mongering, incessant nitpicking, and a bunch of posts that bear a striking resemblance to the sort of squabbling one would expect from a bunch of middle school girls. I guess this is just one of the drawbacks of DD attracting a wider audience.

    I miss the good old days.

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    Well I don't mean to be less than a man, I just don't consider a two arm chin up with a one arm negative "inhuman strength"

    I think it's great he is training and working on it though. I give anyone credit for working out.
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    I also find it odd how if anyone mentions any variation from in their workout from the CC book how people go nuts. People have been doing one arm chin ups and hand stand push ups long before this book was ever written. A brown belt in our karate class taught me to do hand stand push ups back in 1974.

    It's sort of silly really. I love the book but sometimes the people on this forum are naive.
    If you don't spend a month on each step somehow you won't have strong tendons, like everyone who buys the book has weak tendons for some reason.
    Sorry I love DD and Pavel but I simply don't buy into all this hero worship and only one way to do it is by a DD book.

    Now I am expected to stand up and cheer because someone can let themselves down from a chin up with one hand. Sorry just does not meet the extroidinary strength records in anyones book as far as I know.

    Good for Josh for working hard though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Sisk View Post
    Once upon a time this forum was patronized by men.

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    well at least there's been some progress then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShuriteKempo View Post
    I also find it odd how if anyone mentions any variation from in their workout from the CC book how people go nuts. People have been doing one arm chin ups and hand stand push ups long before this book was ever written. A brown belt in our karate class taught me to do hand stand push ups back in 1974.

    It's sort of silly really. I love the book but sometimes the people on this forum are naive.
    If you don't spend a month on each step somehow you won't have strong tendons, like everyone who buys the book has weak tendons for some reason.
    Sorry I love DD and Pavel but I simply don't buy into all this hero worship and only one way to do it is by a DD book.
    Well said.

    This place can be pretty cult like and dogmatic sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc View Post
    well at least there's been some progress then.

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    roflol


    the more I get to know MC on the interwebs, the more I like MC
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    Quote Originally Posted by mc View Post
    well at least there's been some progress then.

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    good one.
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