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    Steve W. is offline Senior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Sisk View Post
    Once upon a time this forum was patronized by men.

    Men who discussed strength training.

    There was a guy named Trend who was constantly coming up with new ideas about deadlifting and power breathing, and there was always an interesting new discussion about some new technique or another.

    Now, every time I visit these forums I see controversy mongering, incessant nitpicking, and a bunch of posts that bear a striking resemblance to the sort of squabbling one would expect from a bunch of middle school girls. I guess this is just one of the drawbacks of DD attracting a wider audience.

    I miss the good old days.
    Honestly, there was actually a lot more silly conflict, controversy and conflict on this board in the past. DD has tightened up A LOT on the OT threads and trolling in recent years. There were times that there was more stuff that would typically be found in the "lounge" or "pub" areas of most discussion boards than there was about training.

    Trend is a great example of a poster who ignored all the other stuff and focused on training, but he didn't post very often and wasn't necessarily typical.

    In some ways the forum was more interesting back then, but that's because it was more social and freewheeling (with all of the positive and negative aspects that implies), not because everyone was laser-focused on training. That's just not how it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mc View Post
    well at least there's been some progress then.

    mc

    i hate the smiley face things but this deserves one actually two

    well played mc
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    Much as i hate the obligatory nature if the progressive girl-power comment, I did chuckle. My comment wasn't directed towards anyone in particular.

    It just doesnt matter whether the pull-up in question is really all that impressive. Good for josh, good for shurite, good for MC, good for me. I don't worship pavel, nor do I follow CC to the letter. I'd just think we all need to shut up and train.

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    Default Lets be adults, huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShuriteKempo View Post
    I also find it odd how if anyone mentions any variation from in their workout from the CC book how people go nuts. People have been doing one arm chin ups and hand stand push ups long before this book was ever written. A brown belt in our karate class taught me to do hand stand push ups back in 1974.

    It's sort of silly really. I love the book but sometimes the people on this forum are naive.

    Sorry I love DD and Pavel but I simply don't buy into all this hero worship and only one way to do it is by a DD book.
    I've got to say I agree with this 100%. I said something (mildly) critical about gym movement, and you'd have thought I took a dump in the punchbowl!

    Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I'm not big on this "shut up and train" attitude--with all due respect. If we're not interested in critiquing or appraising training ideas and philosophies, why are we on this forum at all? We should be training!

    Truth is, there's nothing wrong with an open mind--and that sometimes involves criticism of theories or techniques we believe are incorrect, a waste of time, or even dangerous.

    This might come as a shock, but real "men" can (believe it or not) say negative things sometimes, and even disagree with one another without running to the restroom for a cry. Jesus, who THE HELL wants to spend time on a forum where everyone thinks exactly the same way?

    I'm a little surprised that so many people on this forum are so damn scared of a little disagreement. Like, if we all don't fully accept or applaud every training system that comes along (even ones we think are silly or hazardous) the world will come to an end. Like hell! Disagreement is healthy. Antithesis is what generates new synthesis.

    And as for the CC thing, right on. We can--no, we SHOULD--disagree on that if we wish to, also. Coach Wade himself says that flexibility, freedom and variety in training are key to inidvidual success.
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    Debate and the exchange of ideas is what this forum should be all about. That and the occasional old fashioned chauvinistic comments from yours truly.

    Perhaps I should have been more clear with my comments. What I don't like is the ease with which discussions turn into squabbling matches. Talk about what Josh is doing, about how your GM training is going, or whatever else. Just try not to take exception to every little thing. Unless it's that "I broke my arm snatching guy". As far as I'm concerned, everyone ought to let him have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Sisk View Post
    Debate and the exchange of ideas is what this forum should be all about. That and the occasional old fashioned chauvinistic comments from yours truly.

    Perhaps I should have been more clear with my comments. What I don't like is the ease with which discussions turn into squabbling matches. Talk about what Josh is doing, about how your GM training is going, or whatever else.
    Yes, that's very true...

    Reasoned argument is okay, but personal squabbling and impoliteness are completely uneccessary. This is one of the few really civilized forums in the strength/fitness world. I hope it stays that way. But a look outside the window tells me the world is going the other way.

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    has anybody here actually watched where this thread started and which direction its gone? Someone was complimenting a former forum member and somehow gm was brought back up.

    yeah gm's marketing isn't welcome here and it was explained why but that is old news. let the dead horse rest in peace.

    in the end everything here, every program, every peace of equipment and every technique is just a tool designed to make you stronger. use whats useful to you.
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    In the eternally wise words of the great Conan the Barbarian...

    "ENOUGH TALK!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easey Jack View Post
    . But a look outside the window tells me the world is going the other way.
    That could also be the effect of our train pulling out of the station as we leave the rest standing on the platform...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldboy View Post
    In the eternally wise words of the great Conan the Barbarian...

    "ENOUGH TALK!"
    Very nice! Kinda makes me want to watch that Conan musical again...
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