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    Convict Conditioner is offline Senior Member
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    Smile Inhuman Strength: Josh Hanagarne vs CC

    Anyone else follow "The World's Strongest Librarian" blog? I'm nowhere near as big as Josh (wouldn't want to be--it'd screw with my climbing) but I have to say I'm impressed by his success with CC, notably the one-armed chin-up:

    Convict Conditioning

    Well done, Josh!

    QUESTION:

    Now, I'm not an expert of weight training; but if this guy is lowering his body weight using just one arm, and he's 250+ pounds, isn't that the equivalent of a one-arm dumbbell row negative-movement with 250 pounds? (I'm, sure weights guys will set me straight on this!)

    Is that pretty superhuman or what? I can chin myself easy as hell, but I don't think I could lower than much weight with BOTH arms!!
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    TheJourney is offline Junior Member
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    Uh oh...you mentioned Josh. Brace yourself for a bunch of Gym Movement bashing.

    Yes Josh is indeed very strong. I have seen him in action many times. The guy is awesome.

    ...and yes, GM works. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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    Josh is pretty superhuman, and super human, too.

    Having said that, extrapolations from bw exercises to weights don't appear particularly accurate or useful, in my limited experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJourney View Post
    Uh oh...you mentioned Josh. Brace yourself for a bunch of Gym Movement bashing.

    Yes Josh is indeed very strong. I have seen him in action many times. The guy is awesome.
    Oh Jesus. You're kidding? I kind of liked Josh's style. Has he joined that cult too?

    (Yes...I'm GM bashing. But I bent forwards quite a long way before doing it, so I assumed it was the right thing to do today.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict Conditioner View Post
    Now, I'm not an expert of weight training; but if this guy is lowering his body weight using just one arm, and he's 250+ pounds, isn't that the equivalent of a one-arm dumbbell row negative-movement with 250 pounds? (I'm, sure weights guys will set me straight on this!)
    No, lowering yourself would be harder than the eccentric of a DB row w. an equivalent weight.
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    TheJourney is offline Junior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easey Jack View Post
    Oh Jesus. You're kidding? I kind of liked Josh's style. Has he joined that cult too?

    (Yes...I'm GM bashing. But I bent forwards quite a long way before doing it, so I assumed it was the right thing to do today.)

    Cult? Ha! That's cute. Yes "comrade", he joined that cult too.

    So the method one chooses to train with is what you use to decide whether you like them or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJourney View Post
    Cult? Ha! That's cute. Yes "comrade", he joined that cult too.

    So the method one chooses to train with is what you use to decide whether you like them or not?
    Seriously. This nonsensical squabbling needs to come to an end. If you don't like another persons training methods then don't use them. One could make some very nasty critiques about Dragon Door and the RKC but what would be the point? We all ultimately have the same goals. Improve health and well being and for some to coach others on doing the same. Yet people insist on having some sort of divide.

    My training has been influenced by so many different schools of thought it's ridiculous. Nearly everyone has something good to offer and I'd rather reap the benefits of getting better by exposing myself to new ideas then to keep close minded and judgmental.

    If what you are doing is working for you then great. But be an adult and don't call names to someone or another group of people you know nothing about. Crap like this has really made the DD look less then great in my eyes. I still love DD and I still have the utmost pride in being an RKC but honestly guys and gals, we should be better than this.
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    Steve Sisk is offline Senior Member
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    How about this: instead of dicking around on the internet playing clan wars we all go find a pull-up bar, employ the methodology of our choice, and see if we can match Josh's performance.

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    Easey Jack is offline Senior Member
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    Default knee jerking much?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJourney View Post
    Cult? Ha! That's cute. Yes "comrade", he joined that cult too.

    So the method one chooses to train with is what you use to decide whether you like them or not?
    Get your facts right.

    Firstly, I'm not a member of Dragon Door "cult" if there is such a thing. I don't even lift kettlebells. I'm here for the high quality Convict Conditioning training information.

    Secondly, I have never referred to myself as "comrade". In fact, I've taken a massive amount of abuse for petitioning against this term.

    The CC 'convict'

    Third, where do you get this "like them or not" junk? I was referring to liking Josh's style--i.e., his approach to strength training. I still like Josh. In fact, I think he's great.

    Sure, I don't like GM. At all. But this is America. I have the right to say so. I didn't start a thread, bash the guy or anything. I just passed a comment. Calm down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easey Jack View Post
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    Sure, I don't like GM. At all. But this is America. I have the right to say so. I didn't start a thread, bash the guy or anything. I just passed a comment. Calm down.
    No you misunderstand! This is SPARTA (well Sweden actually...)!!!

    (END REPLY!)
    I am still amazed how you still can debate this GM vs RKC vs Other stuff. Don't care if you are a Communist, Republican or a Weed smoking Hippie. Lift heavy weights, become happy, become strong and in the meantime STFU!

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