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    Future is offline Senior Member
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    Default Kettlebells and martial arts

    Its often said that these two go together very well but I do not know of any martial arts centre's that actually use kettlebells in their conditioning sessions.

    Do you?

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    There's a school out where I live that teaches KB classes. Not attended thwem, but I think one of the RKC's who post here teaches there. They are also prominently mentioned in some recent DragonTV videos.

    So, not unheard of.

    Hell, if I were an HKC or RKC, I bet I could get my instructor to let me run a class or three.

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    I was introduced to Kettlebells many years ago in a Krav Maga studio. Now I use that same studio to run Kettlebell classes.
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    I can think of 6 off the top of my head in NYC alone that use them to greater or lesser degree. That having been said, the quality of instruction varies greatly...

    Also, realize that this is usually either in a separate class, or equipment available for students to use before/after class. During class, it would likely be a pain and/or a safety hazard to be moving bells back and forth, on and off the training area.

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    In the UK kettlebell training is not so widespread, hopefully this will change over the next few years.

    I have been looking at using kettlebells in a way to complement my kickboxing sessions, it seems like explosive movements will help the best?

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    The school I train at as a full complement of kettlebells in the back. As for conditioning sessions, can't help you, we don't really have conditioning classes outside of fighting. They're just there for students to use if they want to.

    I also know of at least one other MMA school in the area that has them as well.
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    We have a Russian kettlebell class but not during our martial arts class. It is separate, quite a few of my karateka come to it.

    Traditional martial arts use similar lifting implements to the kettlebell.

    Chinese call it the stone lock or stone key. Here are some Chinese guys using them.
    YouTube - The Stone Lock

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    In Okinawan Kempo we call it the tetsu sashi (Iron Lock) or the ishi sashi (stone lock). But it is used quite a bit differently then the way I see the Chinese martial artists use the weight. At about 3+20 the karateka uses the ishi sashi in the traditional Okinawan exercises. We did also swing them outside the legs I don't think he does it here.
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    For most of the exercises I now prefer the Russian kettlebell, I still like the Kongo Ken (Iron Diamond) and the Nigiri Game (Grip Jar) and Makiwara (striking post) training though. For the Chi-ishi (leverage strength stone) I prefer my New York barbell leverage bar because it is plate loaded. But I do the same exercises that I would do with the Chi-ishi. I also have my own version of the bamboo bundle used for grip training.

    I also do seminars at quite a few martial arts dojo using Russian kettlebells and many of them have bought bells from me for their dojo.
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    We use them at my house. All of my students train with them.

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    At some of the kickboxing and karate classes I have been to they drag out dumbbells, barbells and other equipment for some circuits and conditioning work either before or after sparring and skill practice. I don't see why they don't use kettlebells since they are so great?

    Would using kettlebells take to much out of you during a session?

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    just because not all of them have jumped on board doesn't mean they aren't useful. And from what I have seen that passes for a conditioning class some kettlebell training would do them a world of good.

    Max Shank RKC2 used them to build himself up to an incredible level of strength that translated to an undefeated mixed martial arts record with only a moderate amount of actual martial arts training. His all over strength did him a world of good there.

    I could cite many examples of kettlebells being used for martial arts but I don't think you need to look past just a couple of the kettlebell enthusiast/martial arts people on this board.

    and strength could be considered a martial art unto itself
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