The world’s premier network for those seeking to share and discuss high-impact,high results, super practical information for the developmentof superiorphysical performance.
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17
  1. #1
    smith k is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    10

    Default Heaviest pistol?

    What's the heaviest pistol you guys have seen done. Has anyone ever pistols a beast in both hands?

  2. #2
    Rob Drewry is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    873
    Blog Entries
    85

    Default

    Steve Cotter is pictured somewhere doing pistols with two 70lb bells. I've never seen anyone do a heavier pistol than that.

  3. #3
    demarcoa is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    91
    Blog Entries
    11

    Default

    I've never seen pictures of heavier pistols than Cotter's. But I he claimed a +bodyweight pistol (pair of 40kg'ers in his case) and so did Jeff Steinberg.
    John Grimek said he could do a pistol with 200lb. I'm inclined to believe him. There are claims of people going heavier than that too, I think it's certainly possible.

  4. #4
    Jeff Steinberg is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    350
    Blog Entries
    1330

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by demarcoa View Post
    I've never seen pictures of heavier pistols than Cotter's. But I he claimed a +bodyweight pistol (pair of 40kg'ers in his case) and so did Jeff Steinberg.
    I have never done a pistol with more than my own bodyweight. My personal best is +163 x 1R, 1L at a bodyweight of 171.

    Full 1-legged squats (pistols) were seemingly a bit more popular as a challenge lift for lifters in the pre-1960's-1970's. Supposedly, Carlin Venus did a single with a 305 lb barbell.

    In a previous post, I believe someone mentioned watching an NFL punter make 315 at 235 bodyweight (also on a barbell).

  5. #5
    demarcoa is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    91
    Blog Entries
    11

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Steinberg View Post
    I have never done a pistol with more than my own bodyweight. My personal best is +163 x 1R, 1L at a bodyweight of 171.

    Full 1-legged squats (pistols) were seemingly a bit more popular as a challenge lift for lifters in the pre-1960's-1970's. Supposedly, Carlin Venus did a single with a 305 lb barbell.

    In a previous post, I believe someone mentioned watching an NFL punter make 315 at 235 bodyweight (also on a barbell).
    My mistake then. That is still a very impressive lift.
    Popularity definitely makes a difference, I'm sure if more people practiced the bent press (for example) there would be some pretty heavy lifts going up.

  6. #6
    wicked1992 is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    139
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Steinberg View Post
    I have never done a pistol with more than my own bodyweight. My personal best is +163 x 1R, 1L at a bodyweight of 171.

    Full 1-legged squats (pistols) were seemingly a bit more popular as a challenge lift for lifters in the pre-1960's-1970's. Supposedly, Carlin Venus did a single with a 305 lb barbell.

    In a previous post, I believe someone mentioned watching an NFL punter make 315 at 235 bodyweight (also on a barbell).
    How much can you squat on the barbell? Who is the NFL punter? beast pistol by the way

  7. #7
    johnbeamon is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    805
    Blog Entries
    97

    Default The Beast Tamer Challenge?

    The OP asked if anyone had pistoled the Beast. That's one of the three elements of the Beast Tamer Challenge at RKC events. It's not a very common acheivement, but there's a documented list of people who've done it.
    John Beamon

    My thread "Guest User? Really" prompted some 6 pages of discussion on why Pavel's user account had been changed to "Guest User" status. John Du Cane answered in a forthright manner, and I thanked him for his professionalism in this very forum.

    That entire thread was removed from the forum on or around August 26. I've been an HKC and an active, outspoken member in good standing for some 3yrs now, but I don't support this sort of censorship. Look for me on the public web.

    -j

  8. #8
    demarcoa is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    91
    Blog Entries
    11

    Default

    ^ He asked about beasts in both hands--96kilos--which is why I referenced several claimed 200+ lb pistols.
    That would be a much rarer feat.

  9. #9
    Jeff Steinberg is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    350
    Blog Entries
    1330

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by wicked1992 View Post
    How much can you squat on the barbell? Who is the NFL punter? beast pistol by the way
    Thank you - for a stretch there, I worked very hard at the pistol. My best parallel squat (low bar, close-ish stance, no equipment of any kind) is 465x5. Best high-bar, full squat is 460x1. I am currently working the latter with 2011 goals of making a 500 lb and then 3x bodyweight high bar, ATG back squat.

    Now, for an unrequested (but verbose) monologue:
    The punter was a fellow by the name of Tommy Parks - apparently, he used to train with Dave Lemancyzk (sp?) who has posted about him here and on Ross Enamait's forum. While a 315 lb pistol seems unbelievable, I'm inclined to believe it happened. I postulate that it simply seems impossible because we are used to rating our capabilities on certain lifts/exercises on a scale topped by relatively average individuals, rather than truly elite physical specimens.

    Contemplate this:
    Steve Cotter, Maurice Jones-Drew, and myself are all approximately the same height. MJD's leg strength and explosiveness made him a millionaire athlete. Steve Cotter and I have both put in a great deal of hard work and done well for ourselves, but becoming a millionaire athlete was never a possibility for either of us. Maybe if we trained a little harder in our youth, had better guidance & coaching, right? NO! It wouldn't have mattered. In fact, no one even made a concerted effort to drive either of us towards "money sports." Why? Because at no point did either of us ever show the type of physical talent that overflows from an athlete like MJD. If he can't perform a heavier pistol than Cotter and myself, it's simply a matter of disinterest, not lack of capability.

    Main point:
    Dave Lemanczyk has reported an unusual instance in which a highly talented individual (a man who like MJD is much more physically talented than Cotter or myself) has shown interest in an exercise no longer popular amongst men of his physical caliber. You're unlikely to find people reporting those kinds of numbers here, because those with the necessary inherent talent are more likely to devote their effort to activities more conducive to large financial rewards. But, these are the people to look at if you want to know what is possible of the human body. And, if you can momentarily suspend disbelief about the abilities of the true physical elite, it may fuel your hunger for progress, the weights you are currently lifting may seem less imposing, and PRs may come a bit easier...

  10. #10
    geoplaten is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts
    847

    Default

    Jeff, that is an amazingly honest - and humble - post.

    I understand that the financial motivation isn't there for an MJD, but do you think it would improve his athletic performance if he did work on something like pistols, or do you think he has, by conscious choice or not, already found what works best for him? He's an interesting example, because superficially, he almost looks out of shape - it's amazing to me that he runs as fast as he does, given his physique. But perhaps those extra pounds give him what Dan John refers to as armor.

    Good luck on your squat goal. I hope you realize that the rest of us view you (and a few others) as the MJD(s) of the site.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Free Course
Close