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    Default The Great Gama Strength Prescription: Hindu Push Ups!

    This one is for all you bodyweight training aficionados.

    But even if you are not all that into bodyweight training, this one is still worth consideration, because there are many benefits to be had from performing hindu push ups, as they are quite therapeutical for your shoulders, back and hips.

    Here is my new blog and video on the benfits of Hindu push ups, and some of our favorite hindu push up variations including elevated hpu, one arm hpu, etc.

    Enjoy, and as always feedback is appreciated!

    http://chroniclesofstrength.com/1/post/2011/03/the-great-gama-strength-perscription-2000-hindu-push-ups-a-day.html
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    Thanks for posting this Pat! I love hindu pushups and can't get enough of them. They just feel "good". Now I see why!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rozy View Post
    Thanks for posting this Pat! I love hindu pushups and can't get enough of them. They just feel "good". Now I see why!
    Thanks Rozy and your right, this is certainly a feel good exercise
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    Excellent recommendation. I find ~20 Hindus per day work wonders for DOMS and back flexibility. A good way to stay limber after stressful routines.
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    Nice. I've constructed a morning mobility routine, a sort of combination between stuff I learned from Pavel, Steve Maxwell, Coach Sommers and yoga. A few weeks back I decided to add Hindu pushups and Hindu squats to it. I usually do around ten Hindu pushups. A great way to get a good stretch and some extra energy. For strength and endurance you should obviously do more, this is just something to wake me up in the morning.

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    Lovely movement to be sure. Really nice vid.

    In the post, the prescription offered is "When I suffered a fairly serious shoulder injury some months ago, it was daily doses of joint mobility, hindu push ups, dmso, and light turkish get ups that healed me up quicker than I thought possible."

    I don't have any case figures that suggest this approach works better than other approaches - so am loathe to make therapeutic claims; if it works for one person - that's great; whether that's the thing that did it, don't know; whether it can be generalised, i don't have the data and haven't seen the data. I know depending on certain injury/inflammations, the downward pressure at the shoulder may be problematic - stages depending.

    it's interesting the focus is on the shoulder - my sense is that there is less happening at the shoulder as a "shoulder developer" if that means shoulder strength? than elsewhere in the body. but i may be misinterpreting what shoulder developer means - i usually think of that as hypertrophy.

    1) beyond the shoulder- has anyone tried it who has hip, low back, knee or ankle issues? or neck issues? - i ask because it's got a lot of involvement with these joints as well. lots of folks who celebrate "structural yoga therapy" love downward dog and cobra for their low back.

    2) 2000 hindu push ups a day - what movement patterns would this privilege - seems there's some good core and arm and adductor work in there too, and at that level, we're talking endurance work.

    3) might it be counter-indicated for shoulder work? especially because of the presure at the starting position baring down on the suprascapular muscle - if someone had a tweaky rotator cuff issue, i'd be less inclined to load that in this way. But as always, let pain be one's guide: never move into it deliberately outside life and death challenges.

    4) pre-req's: i'm not sure if high rep hindu push ups work if you're rep'ing in poor thoracic or lumbar patterns? so if said marial artist or grappler bends over like W2 here are hindu push ups going to (a) show up in this move (b) fix this problem (c) entrench the problem.
    in other words, one might want to work on their downward dog form before swooping into hindu push ups? That such work helps build the strength needed to move between the two moves?

    5) maybe what contributes to this movement being so prized is the requirement for strength and control through a range of joints and throughout the movement? After all with the elbows locked, the work at the shoulder is pretty low compared to the work at the hips and core to rotate around that joint? push up is rather a misnomer - since the elbows stay locked throughout.

    checking for muscle involvement in this move, i've found a good discussion here of its role as an endurance strength builder rather than as a power strength builder.

    So i guess in sum: hindu push up so called (or dand) is a great exercise; just not sure that it's a great one specifically for shoulder work where there's been or may still be an active injury, or where movement in the move isn't checked for quality mobility. In the injury case, check in with pain; in the movement case, another pair of eyes may help - especially if those eyes are connected to experience about how to open up the movement patterns to do that move well.

    I guess i'm suggesting that there may be some preliminary caveats about getting into HPUs before recommending HPUs?
    Sorta like the way Gray and Brett break down TGU's as progressions.

    just a thought.


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    2000 reps of anything is overkill.

    There is a fine line between exercise (physical work that stimulates the body and makes it stronger) and manual labor (physical work that wears the body down and ultimately destroys it), 2000 hindu pushups per day would probably belong in the latter category.

    But the dand is a great exercise and I don't think the author's message was "do 2000 dand per day", rather it was "include this exercise into your routine". Excellent blog post with a very useful video.

    Also the Great Gama was Muslim, calling him a 'Hindu wrestler' would've caused him some concern if he were still around The Pehlwani used a number of different techniques in their training, some of which I have listed in an article I wrote here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman View Post
    2000 reps of anything is overkill.

    There is a fine line between exercise (physical work that stimulates the body and makes it stronger) and manual labor (physical work that wears the body down and ultimately destroys it), 2000 hindu pushups per day would probably belong in the latter category.

    But the dand is a great exercise and I don't think the author's message was "do 2000 dand per day", rather it was "include this exercise into your routine". Excellent blog post with a very useful video.

    Also the Great Gama was Muslim, calling him a 'Hindu wrestler' would've caused him some concern if he were still around The Pehlwani used a number of different techniques in their training, some of which I have listed in an article I wrote here.
    2000 reps a day is certainly over kill for someone who has never done a hindu push up in their life.

    I also believe those numbers are inflated, but hey it makes for a good story.

    But do I believe that it is possible for a human to work up to such a feat? Absolutely. Do I feel it is going to be worthwhile? Probably not.

    And my message was certainly not to do 2000 dands a day! Just to convey what I feel is a great exercise, worthwhile of incorporating into a routine.

    If the Great Gama were still around, I would surely ask his forgiveness, as he is certainly a man I would not wish to offend :P

    Great blog post btw, very informative. Physical culture has always intrigued me.
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