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    Rich in Nor Cal is offline Senior Member
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    Default Does anyone know what it is?

    Decades ago I saw a show about Turkey, maybe it was on PBS(?). One part showed Turkish folkwrestling at a festival. The wrestlers warmed up with joint mobility-like moves, some stones, and peculiar-looking thing that looked like a piece of pipe or solid round bar with a ball on the end of concrete or iron, or maybe even clay.

    The wrestlers would put the ball-end of this thing over their shoulder and pull down on the bar, levering the ball up, adjusting the bar to increase or decrease leverage. They would lower the ball end by raising the grip end up, and bring their hands over their head and the bar around the back of their heads to the other shoulder, then raise it up again, and then keep repeating on alternating shoulders.

    At the time it looked like a low-tech ancient sort of device for working the lats, for the poor benighted souls who couldn't afford pull-down machines. In view of what I have been learning about exercise and kbells, though, it looks like it was a great device for working the opposite muscle groups of the kbell snatch, similar to sledge hammering.

    Anyway, does anyone know what the thing is called? I'd like to find where I can buy one or instructions for making one at home. Thanks.

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    A mace? (aka Gada). Indian wrestlers use them.


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    Are you talking about a macebell?

    Like this guy is using:

    YouTube - Karl Gotch - Mace Swinging Demo
    [URL="http://heavyasareallyheavything.blogspot.com"]Fatman's Training Log[/URL]

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    Rich in Nor Cal is offline Senior Member
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    That's it! You guys nailed it, thanks a lot!

    Now to see if I can find or make one...

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    Rich in Nor Cal is offline Senior Member
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    Default poor benighted souls

    Just in case anybody thought I was being serious with the "poor benighted souls" remark, I was just being tongue-in-cheek. From what I've been learning, those "poor benighted souls" often found what worked centuries ago and passed that knowledge down, whether kbells, calisthenics, Indian clubs, or macebells.

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    It is interesting how the tradition developed.

    These training methods travelled across the world and are present in the traditional wrestling schools of India, the Middle East, Central Asia and Turkey - incredibly diverse cultures, but similar traditions, even identical words for a lot of the implements (despite the languages being totally different). Some forms of them can even be found in China.
    [URL="http://heavyasareallyheavything.blogspot.com"]Fatman's Training Log[/URL]

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    I guess thats because the mace/hammer was a common weapon among many cultures, including western. I guess it's still in eastern cultures because they hold to tradition more.

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    Check out this link. It is to a blog post from Steve Maxwell where he shows you exactly how to make your own mace:

    It's How You Put it Together...: Gitchy Gitchy Gada Ya-Ya!
    [URL="http://bodyweightculture.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16177"][/URL]

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    Rich in Nor Cal is offline Senior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marklar View Post
    Check out this link. It is to a blog post from Steve Maxwell where he shows you exactly how to make your own mace:

    It's How You Put it Together...: Gitchy Gitchy Gada Ya-Ya!
    Thanks a lot for the link! I think I'll make one following his instructions, and if I like as much as I think I will, I will take Jake Shannon's advice in Maxwell's thread and buy one. I like the feel of wood, but if it seems too flimsy I might opt for black gas pipe.

    I want to try it on my kbell days paired with snatches, maybe aerobically, alternating every 5 minutes snatches/mace for as long as I can stand.

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    there's even a dvd out on how to use it !

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