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    Art
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    D'oh! my mistake. thank you for the correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art View Post
    Glad I found this thread and this post. I'm thinkiking about a PTTP inspired routine, and I hate changing weights (takes too long, especialy if you have to use dumbells for upper body) a set of 5, then 3, then a single sounds much better.
    Well, if time is a concern, adding a rest period on 3-5 minutes per exercise is obviously gonna make the workout longer ...

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    I have those Starlock dumbells. I think it takes more than 3-5 minutes to change the weights, when you're having trouble with starting the threads because your CNS is fried from deads and your hands are shaking.
    and so far, I've not needed 3 minute rests between sets.
    Changing weight for Deads is actual work, once you get heavy (gotta lift the end of the bar while you add or remove weights) so you change weights and THEN wait your rest period out.
    To me it makes more sense to use the same weight for fewer reps.
    Anyway, I've not tried a PTTP inspired workout yet, so I could try both variants and see which works better.
    I'm out injured right now, and was doing 531 set one: 5 with 40% of top weight, set two: 5 with 50%, set three: 3 with 60% or 65%, then three sets ramping up to top set.
    On squats, that's 1/2 hour on just the main exercise.
    Add 5 sets of ten on two assistance exercises, and you're burning a lot of daylight.
    PTTP as originaly written takes 20 minutes. That, to me, is better, even if I mix it up a bit (side press one workout, floor press the next) and add some pulls to balance all the pressing, likely 30 minutes for the whole thing.
    even leaves time for ETK PM for conditioning, maybe.

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    Just to add my opinion but 5x5 is not just a beginner routine at all. It is tried and true for it's ability to teach good technique before the weights get heavy.

    it can be applied to almost all exercises to develop good technique whilst increasing the load session by session/ week by wek.

    what needs to be taken into account is where you stand in relation to your strength potential in designing a 5x5 program. Beginners can add weight almost each session at the beginning as they will be starting quite light. Where as a more advanced trainee can use it to bust a plateau by starting a cycle Light (maybe 70% 1RM) and adding weight weekly.

    The method is still the same as PTTP however the sessions/ week would be reduced to accomodate volume/ workout. I usually train 3x week with 5x5 with 2 alternating workouts. So the same workout will be done 3x in 2 weeks. I consider myself intermediate and this still always helps achieve my strength goals, when i want to hit a new PR!

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