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    Exclamation PAVEL/RKCís/QUALIFIED ADVISORS - Protecting family

    I read the official part of the Q&A megathread (not the whole thread...), and didn't find what I needed, so I'm looking for your input, comrades.

    I am coming back from a shoulder injury, plantar fasciitis, and months of no training. I have an immediate need to ramp up my physical ability to protect my family. Iíve taken other precautions with police and lawyers, but as we know it would be negligent of me not to make sure I am physically capable of handling a threat. I know that most any program I select (except for "fat loss only" programsÖ) would be very beneficial over time. I donít have time. I understand that everything takes time, but that some programs may be optimal over others for my needs.

    I currently have available:
    *Convict Conditioning (book)
    *Enter the Kettlebell (book)
    *2 ea: 16k bell (mine), 8k bell (wife's)
    *Little extra money to invest in anything different (but I wonít exclude it if we feel that another program is best for my immediate needs)

    Your time and advice are very, very much appreciated.

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    Since you mentioned police and lawyers and the need to protect your family I think having a gun in the house or on your person would be the safest bet. Invest in a firearm. Learn how to shoot. Let it be known to others that you know how to shoot. Have a couple of BIG Doberman Pinchers around the house. You live in Montana - a gun friendly state I believe. If you feel threatened by all means exercise your 2nd Amenment Rights. Stay physicall fit. But learn to shoot..Dennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by ad5ly View Post
    Since you mentioned police and lawyers and the need to protect your family I think having a gun in the house or on your person would be the safest bet. Invest in a firearm. Learn how to shoot. Let it be known to others that you know how to shoot. Have a couple of BIG Doberman Pinchers around the house. You live in Montana - a gun friendly state I believe. If you feel threatened by all means exercise your 2nd Amenment Rights. Stay physicall fit. But learn to shoot..Dennis

    Thanks Dennis.

    I am Front Sight trained and armed. Wife too. Appreciate the comment though, good advice.

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    On this site there is a dvd MARTIAL POWER. I don't have it but look for yourself. Being physically fit and knowing how to survive an attack by someone out to hurt or kill are two different things. Never take a kettlebell to a gun fight..hehe!!..Dennis

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    If you don't own a gun it might take time to get one. In the mean time I would learn how to improvise weapons. I told my wife that we have weapons within reach in every single room of our house. In the kitchen it's knives. In the downstairs it's bottles of wine. In the upstairs it's lamps. In the bedroom....you don't want to know.

    Being dressed in standard attire your belt can be used as a weapon. Swinging it around so that the buckle is on the outside can hurt...at least long enough for you to either get away or move in and take his eye out with your finger. Rupturing an eye only takes about 20lbs of force if I'm not mistaken and can be done with little to no training as long as you keep your cool.
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    Being well-trained with a gun is great if there is a break-in and the assailants want to hurt you...I'm surprised no one has mentioned what you can do to reduce the risk BEFORE it comes to the use of your handgun...what about a good home security system? Plus drilling your family on what to do in various situations?

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    Wow - I hope things get better for you and your family, soon.

    Perhaps a self-defense class would be beneficial - not just for you but for your wife as well.
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    Yeah, I support buying a gun too. I think it's pretty obvious now that it's the best choice.

    Aside from that, while you get the gun, you might as well start becoming physically fit (you might as well now).
    I don't like any of the options you listed. CC and ETK will take you too much time before you start gaining some muscle for intimidation and strength. If I were you, I would immediately place myself on a diet of Push-ups, Pull-ups, Squats, Leg Raises, etc.
    If you haven't been that physically fit before, they'll build up your strength and muscle relatively quickly (1-2 months because of beginner gains). If you can manage 20+ reps of an exercise, switch to a harder one. Train 3-4 times a week hard.

    If you want to, there's an open thread on Cals to gain muscle (Naked Warrior Bear) where some Comrades, Pavel, and I have been listing routines and various exercises designed for buffing up (as far as Cals allow). You might as well take a look there I guess
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    Very good luck to you Comrade!

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    Physical preparedness is great, but if someone violent truly wants to hurt you and the legal system isn't going to offer adequate protection (for whatever reason), it's hard to beat the company of a properly trained personal protection dog or 2 (in addition to other self-preservation measures). You might want to look around for a trainer within a reasonable day's drive who's selling a trained, adult protection dog (some trainers will do this to make room in their kennels for promising young puppies).

    Dogs are a little more expensive than other measures, and legitimately dangerous dogs will require a lot more personal commitment throughout their entire life (don't want the dog going sour on you), but...

    1) Reduces the likelihood you'll be stuck in a tight spot until help arrives; senses bad situations and wakes up a lot earlier and a lot faster than you, too...a bit like an alarm system with foresight and big, spiky face
    2) A dog can accompany you/your wife/kids throughout many daily activities
    3) If the moment comes, you might find that you don't have quite as much inherent nastiness & tenacity as you really need to protect your home and family. The right dog isn't going to have the same moral dilemna. Scale of violence/ill-intent:
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    Edit: Not trying to discourage physical fitness - just don't know that exercising will really be much benefit if someone really wants to hurt you (badly enough that the law can't protect you). If being in really exceptional shape will be enough to protect yourself and your family, there are probably ways around this situation that don't involve firearms and highly-aggressive animals.
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    Mark Rippetoe's "Starting Strength." As he (Rip) once said, "Strong people are harder to kill."

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