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    b91st is offline Junior Member
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    Default Russian farmers walks vs Stair climbing for stubborn calves

    Are Russian Farmers Walks (framers walks done on toes) really the exercise for stubborn calves?
    I've been doing RFW for a couple of weeks while holding 2 24kg bells. Today, I climbed 4 flights of stairs x3 while holding the 24kg bells.
    I find it to be more of a challenge!. My calves are toast! stick a fork in 'em there done! For one thing, it keeps you honest about staying on the balls of your feet, can't put your heel down while climbing stairs.
    Anyone out there in kettlebell land do RFW and/or stair climbing?

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    Calves are like any other bodypart. Genetics. The late Mike Mentzer shared with me he never worked calves except if a competition was coming up and even then very little. He said his father's calves were pretty much the same way.

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    and because you're walking constantly, calves never really have a chance to 'recover' unless you're following the advice of the late Vince Gironda and that is sit around and let your muscles grow...and watch life pass you by. ;o)

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    Farmer's walks on your toes? Good luck doing that with any appreciable weight. Sounds like a good way to a tweaked back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotsfan View Post
    Calves are like any other bodypart. Genetics.
    Exactly. Genetics. I've never done calf work and people have commented on how big mine are. And my Father had big calves.
    "Remember: moving up a step doesn't [I]build[/I] strength. It [I]demonstrates[/I] strength--the strength you actually built by knuckling down and working hard on earlier steps!" - Paul "Coach" Wade.

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    And conversely.......nothing short of implants will grow my calves. When I was competing in BB back in the early 90s, I could get reasonably big everywhere but my calves, and I tried everything. The real shame is that I can turn my thighs into tree trunks, which just makes my calves look that much smaller.

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    I am also blaming genetics for my skinny calves. One thing that I have noticed is that professional golfers seem to have larger calves. Now is it the walking that makes for the calves or the calves that make for the walking?

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    Sorry to the OP for getting a little OT... Your discoveries sound interesting, but it seems like some folks insinuate that calves can not grow. Of course this is not the case, there is nothing magical about them that way.

    Many folks train calves as an afterthought (last in the leg workout for a few sets), and that is of course not optimal. If they spent as much time and focus on the calves as on their biceps they sure as heck would grow.

    I've also seen quite a bit of "cheating" on calf raises. Pavel addresses this in Beyond Bodybuilding too if I'm not mistaken.

    Many don't seem to understand the appropriate rep number for calf exercises either. Depending on which exercise you pick you will put focus on either a mainly slow-twitch or a mainly fast-twitch muscle which would mean you would probably do best in using different rep numbers for the two.

    Don't mean to point fingers at anyone in this thread, just don't want folks to get the impression that calves can't grow because they most certainly can.... Just like any other muscle.
    Last edited by Com. Stefan; 07-29-2011 at 01:38 PM.

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    Jumping up with near-maximum effort for reps would seem to be a good way to strengthen both calves and legs as well as hips. It might not create a lot of size, but maybe adding a weight vest or holding bells in your hands would make it more challenging. Coach Wade also talks of doing a squatting calf raise to work the lower part of the calf muscle, the "triceps surae."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich in Nor Cal View Post
    Jumping up with near-maximum effort for reps would seem to be a good way to strengthen both calves and legs as well as hips. It might not create a lot of size, but maybe adding a weight vest or holding bells in your hands would make it more challenging. Coach Wade also talks of doing a squatting calf raise to work the lower part of the calf muscle, the "triceps surae."
    Interesting point about adding weight. It just dawned on me, while I'm walking seven miles a day at work, I'm carrying a satchel on my shoulder, weighing up to 35lbs of mail in it. Would that added weight on my shoulder cause growth in the calf muscles? And I'll rotate the satchel to the other shoulder throughout the day.
    "Remember: moving up a step doesn't [I]build[/I] strength. It [I]demonstrates[/I] strength--the strength you actually built by knuckling down and working hard on earlier steps!" - Paul "Coach" Wade.

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