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    Shank is offline Senior Member
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    Default Strict tiger bend pushup video from CC

    Most of you probably know these from the handstand section of convict conditioning.
    My first successful repetition came yesterday.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk0ULRi7pA8

    Tried to go slow to really make it a strength move. Maybe rif can chime in with some thoughts?
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    I may be wrong, but you went down fine but came up differently by 'flipping' to your palms and then pressing up from handstand pushup position. I believe it is meant lever up in the same groove you went down in.

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    That is a hell of a feat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    I may be wrong, but you went down fine but came up differently by 'flipping' to your palms and then pressing up from handstand pushup position. I believe it is meant lever up in the same groove you went down in.
    Correct. Technically speaking, a "strict" Tiger Bend Handstand Push-up would have you control the whole descent, and go up slowly the same way instead of jerking forward.

    However, this is MUCH easier said than done. In fact, I've never seen it done.

    Note that I'm not taking ANYTHING from the OP. I can't even hold a free-standing handstand, let alone do a push-up. Let alone a TIGER BEND push-up.
    The ones I'm doing are literally from a Push-up position. This makes it easy enough that I can do it "strictly".

    Much kudos to you Shank. That is an amazing feat of strength, especially by the fact that you did your best to slow down.
    Very impressive indeed.

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    Comrade Shank, Further to my earlier post; when in the tiger bend position, the shoulders are above the elbows. When your shoulders are over your palms you are in a handstand or bottom of the handstand pushup position. The tiger bend pushup maintains the shoulders over the elbows as you rise. You can also think of it as a standing tricep press, or French press I believe, where your arms are raised above your head and you drop the weight behind your head. It is very difficult.

    All that being said, excellent press to straddle handstand and doing the freestanding handstand. I used to do those, (I hate that phrase) but should have them back soon. Best of luck.

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    Com. raptor...not following the distinction...can you take a look at some of the videos on youtube and post a link that's "correct" (if any)?

    Com. Max...crazy strong work as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pesce View Post
    not following the distinction...can you take a look at some of the videos on youtube and post a link that's "correct" (if any)?
    As I said on my post. I've never seen anyone do one. But I can try to explain to you.

    Look at the way he lowers. His lower arm (meaning, the wrist to the elbow) begins perpendicular to the floor (top of the handstand), then slowly the 90 degree angle is decreased until it is parallel to the floor (bottom of the tiger bend... the lower arm is resting on the floor).

    NOW, to go up, people will quickly shift their weight forward until the lower arm is again perpendicular to the floor, but the elbows are still flexed. In other words, they shift their weight forward to end in the bottom of the handstand push-up. Then it's just a simple handstand push-up concentric from there.

    But INSTEAD, imagine that you come back up the same way you lowered. As your lower arm goes perpendicular to the floor, you simultaneously extend your elbows. By the time the lower arm is perpendicular to the floor, you will be already at the top of the handstand.

    So the simple distinction? In one of them, you get the lower arms in place with a jerkish move, then extend the elbows. In the almost-impossible way, you get the lower arms in place WHILE you extend your elbows.

    Just look at the descent, and try to think of the person going in the exact same groove back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pesce View Post
    Com. raptor...not following the distinction...can you take a look at some of the videos on youtube and post a link that's "correct" (if any)?

    Com. Max...crazy strong work as always.
    Com. pesce,

    After looking at Youtube (a lot) I had to go try a few things. I can do a tiger bend handstand still, (elbow stand). I can do tiger bend pushups, quite easy actually. When I was a teen, we used to walk on our tiger bend handstands, not very far and I can't do that now, but almost. I would hurt the next day. So yes I tried to rise from the tiger bend handstand and of course didn't move. I learned a few things; your shoulders would certainly have to 'drift' over to the top of your palms to perform this feat slowly and maintain balance. I think what threw me was the quick flipping motion Shank used to get there, and in my mind did not seem quite right. My memory of this move seems to be hazy now.

    So without further delay, I humbly and very sincerely offer my apologies to Com. Shank, for certainly over critiquing his accomplishment. Best wishes to you comrade, in your training and future accomplishments.

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    Thanks all.

    Raptor,
    From what I have seen, the way I shifted my weight was much more slow and controlled than anything I've seen which was my goal. I have been hard pressed to find someone do what you have said which is essentially a behind the neck tricep extension with your bodyweight. It's entirely possible that was the intention of the exercise, but I don't think I was using any excess body english or rushing through any position. No apology necessary, we're all on the same team, after all.
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