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    Chris F. is offline Senior Member
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    Default Why are Pullups harder than Chinups?

    Hey guys, I finally started to add pull ups to my fitness regimen and I am amazed at how much harder they are than when I use the chin up grip? Does it really matter which grip I use? I have been doing the first few pull up grip than switching to chin up grip. It's basically GTG since I suck so bad at these. Lucky if I can do four consecutively.

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    ETA: I use a door pull up bar so I kinda have to keep my legs bent.

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    According to the CC book, they're the same. However, I've experienced exactly what you have - underhand (chin ups) are easier than the over hand (pull up) grip.

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    I can only echo what I've been told in the past, because hell if I have any certification to back up my knowledge, but -

    Chins are easier than pulls because they allow the bicep to help more. The grip used in a pull tends to take them out, putting more emphasis on just the back, the lats and the shoulders.

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    For me chinups are slightly harder as they seem to place more stress on the forearms. But there is no significant difference: max reps in a single set is 10-12 for both.

    I'm not a huge fan of regular-bar chiins/pulls. I like neutral-grip and v-bar pullups the best. Rings are also great.
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    I've been doing pull-ups, chin-ups, parallel bar pulls etc for years on end. I've always been stronger with pull-ups (where I get 20-25 vice maybe 15-20 with chin-ups). I believe it depends on which muscles have been developed more. For me I have a big back and lats, but for someone else who might have more developed biceps might benefit better with chins. Either way I've never not felt my biceps for any type of pull/chin up. I think once someone really gets good at pull-ups they'll always be easier than chins due to the larger use of the back/lats etc which are bigger and stronger. My opinion...

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    Agreed. I can do more pull-ups than chins, and the disparity grows as I do repeat sets in a single session.
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    Oh and I suggest NOT sticking to only 1 type of pull/chin-up. In my experience, getting nice even work with various grips can actually help with your main choice of grip. For example... Chin-ups focus more on the bicep, so your bicep strengthens. Move to the pull-up, now your bicep (now not as emphasized) is stronger to assist the back and lats. Same with parallel grips (palms facing midway). Plus it just makes it fun for variety's sake. I've spent days doing 100+ pull-ups in a 30 minute session and it just gets boring...lol

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    For me, it seems that chins use more of my 'central' lat because I can get my elbows closer to my body, whereas I feel that pull-ups use more of the 'outer' lat and other shoulder muscles. That's just based on what I feel flexing. I can knock off a heck of a lot more chins than pull-ups, but I train the pull up almost exclusively because I train for the TSC. I also alternate between 2 weeks of going for reps training and 2 weeks of weighted pull-ups.

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    when i first started chins were easier. after years of pullups now the chins are harder, so i'm switching to chins.

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    Chris Hansen is offline Senior Member
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    Isn't it because pullups put more stress on one of the forearms muscles (brachioradialus?) and it's kind of a weak link? I thought I read that somewhere.

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