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    Bradley is offline Senior Member
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    So do I just go to a neurologist and ask to be tested for MS?

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    No Bradley,

    You need a diagnosis, in my opinion.

    If I were you, I'd go to my primary care doc, tell him or her that you'd like a referral to a neurologist.

    I know "Dr Pars" very well, he's a good and decent man. His offer to find someone in your area was genuine, I'd take him up on it.

    You and I are not competent to determine what's going on, it's why those bothersome doctor guys spend nine years in school, internship, residency, and fellowships.

    In my opinion, let them do their job first, then chart a course for restoring function next.
    Mark Toomey, Senior RKC, CK-FMS, CSCS

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXERCISEI.COM View Post
    Bradley,

    Bodily dysmorphism is a mental disorder. Unless the respondents to your calls for advice are experienced professionals and they spent more than the time it takes to read a post, I wouldn't count that as a proper diagnosis.

    You mentioned you've seen many doctors and PTs. What kind of docs? If you don't mind being specific, what tests have been done, what imaged studies completed? I hear people saying all the time the doctors "can't" give them an answer, but what questions are you asking?

    Are you impacted by actual dysfunction?

    Your legs "don't work right", but you describe the issue as being a "feeling" of having twisted limbs. What does "don't work right" mean? Can you walk, can you bend your legs, sit, stand?

    The feeling you're describing could be the presentation of a pathology that has nothing to do with your legs.
    I've had x-rays and MRI's of both knees. The doctors initially said it was a tracking issue. Then they found a partial quad tendon tear. But that wasn't the real problem. I think they pretty much always thought it was a tracking issue.

    But the therapy they prescribed never helped. I did some KB work with a PT who said my problem was my body was not integrated, and that I was quad dominant. So we focused on fixing those things. But that didn't help. Not to say those things weren't problems, but they weren't directly related to my problems.

    I can do all those things, but they don't feel right. It feels like my lower leg is bent or twisted with respect to the upper leg, inhibiting proper functioning of the quadriceps. My quads don't seem to contract properly. If I do single leg work, it always feels as if my leg is going to buckle inward, I think because it's already stuck bent inward a bit.

    I think I've had some tightness, which has existed for so long that it may have altered the bone structure. I need to find a person who will take such considerations into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pars View Post
    Bradley-
    What exactly are you trying to rehab? I assume that you have suffered an injury of some type and that you are trying to "rehab" from that injury. I take it personally when you say "doctors have utterly failed me". Can you tell me in what specialty these doctors practice? Who is the cross fit / mobility guru and what kind of advice were you given? ExerciseI above gets it - you need to find a physician who specializes in diagnosis. What is your height and weight? Who performed the neurological examination on you? Were your reflexes asymmetric? Is there evidence of an upper or lower motor neuron lesion? If you tell me where you live, I can probably find someone who can work with you. You can't just "rehab" everything Bradley - the well-trained and experienced physician should be able to help you find that elusive diagnosis. I would not give up on the medical establishment just yet - we are not all incompetent.
    No specific injury, except partial quad tendon tear in the let leg, but I don't think that was the problem.

    I talked to Kelly Starrett, and he seems to take my complaints seriously and seems to think they are very possibly related to tightness somewhere, but absent an explicit diagnosis of what is tight, I'm unsure of what exactly to do and that makes me not want to just experiment with mobility stuff because I feel like I'm just guessing.

    I live in eastern Virginia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pars View Post
    And what kind of physicians (what is their medical specialty or board certification) have you consulted with?
    Sports medicine, orthopedic surgeon, and a physiatrist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley View Post
    So do I just go to a neurologist and ask to be tested for MS?
    http://www.nationalmssociety.org/abo...-ms/index.aspx
    At this time, there are no symptoms, physical findings or laboratory tests that can, by themselves, determine if a person has MS. The doctor uses several strategies to determine if a person meets the long-established criteria for a diagnosis of MS and to rule out other possible causes of whatever symptoms the person is experiencing. These strategies include a careful medical history, a neurologic exam and various tests, including magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), evoked potentials (EP) and spinal fluid analysis.

    The Criteria for a Diagnosis of MS

    In order to make a diagnosis of MS, the physician must:

    Find evidence of damage in at least two separate areas of the central nervous system (CNS), which includes the brain, spinal cord and optic nerves AND
    Find evidence that the damage occurred at least one month apart AND
    Rule out all other possible diagnoses

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