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    Jeff Steinberg is offline Senior Member
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    Boris,

    Salimi's amazing, right? Have you checked out the video of him snatching 217 kg in training?

    Quote Originally Posted by jetronin View Post
    One seriously strong guy, no argument there. But dropping into the hole under that sort of load simply cannot be safe. Does he still have his kneecaps?
    For the folks discussing the safety merit of Mendes' ballistic squatting technique:
    1) In the short-term, Mendes is willing and able to successfully squat like this without injury because he's unusually robust. Everyone who's ever snatched 200-plus kg is built like a tank (an explosive one at that), and he's no exception.
    2) Training and competing at a world-class level in many sports is unsafe. Top weightlifters are known to train through, and retire with, a fair bit of pain and injury. Mendes has made a decision that any future consequences of his training pale against the opportunity to train for and set records now. Maybe he'll retire pain-free - who knows. I just highly doubt he's worrying about that type of long-term consequence right now.

    If I'm going to ramble, I owe a video:
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    I love all the speculation. Any one have any real concrete facts on why How mendes squats other then they don't think it is safe. Maybe Pat could weigh in on why his life goals are and how he thinks weightlifting will affect them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Steinberg View Post
    Boris,

    Now that, was a grind. Me likey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Steinberg View Post
    Boris,

    Salimi's amazing, right? Have you checked out the video of him snatching 217 kg in training?



    For the folks discussing the safety merit of Mendes' ballistic squatting technique:
    1) In the short-term, Mendes is willing and able to successfully squat like this without injury because he's unusually robust. Everyone who's ever snatched 200-plus kg is built like a tank (an explosive one at that), and he's no exception.
    2) Training and competing at a world-class level in many sports is unsafe. Top weightlifters are known to train through, and retire with, a fair bit of pain and injury. Mendes has made a decision that any future consequences of his training pale against the opportunity to train for and set records now. Maybe he'll retire pain-free - who knows. I just highly doubt he's worrying about that type of long-term consequence right now.

    If I'm going to ramble, I owe a video:
    That was a really narrow stance squat which is awesome in my opinion. That was almost straight out of Starting Strength if I am not mistaken. Can I ask how you train your legs? You do a lot of low bar squatting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamNy View Post
    That was a really narrow stance squat which is awesome in my opinion. That was almost straight out of Starting Strength if I am not mistaken. Can I ask how you train your legs? You do a lot of low bar squatting?
    Just to be clear, that is not me. The video is of Konstantin Pozdeev, a top Russian powerlifter training out of the same gym as champion SHW lifter Andrey Malanichev and several other world-class lifters. He is known for his strong squats and deadlift, and is the primary up-and-coming competition to his countryman Andrey Belyaev in the 100 kg weight class.

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    Sorry...didn't read the heading on the vid. I was too wrapped up in the squat. I found the relatively narrow stance style he used really impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Steinberg View Post
    Boris,

    Salimi's amazing, right? Have you checked out the video of him snatching 217 kg in training?



    For the folks discussing the safety merit of Mendes' ballistic squatting technique:
    1) In the short-term, Mendes is willing and able to successfully squat like this without injury because he's unusually robust. Everyone who's ever snatched 200-plus kg is built like a tank (an explosive one at that), and he's no exception.
    2) Training and competing at a world-class level in many sports is unsafe. Top weightlifters are known to train through, and retire with, a fair bit of pain and injury. Mendes has made a decision that any future consequences of his training pale against the opportunity to train for and set records now. Maybe he'll retire pain-free - who knows. I just highly doubt he's worrying about that type of long-term consequence right now...
    That was me. Mendes is willing and able, and he's certainly robust enough for it. It was my opinion that his margin of safety was on his physique, not his technique. I'm a novice, half his size and nowhere near his class, and that bounce at the bottom and stall on the way up still scares me. I'm convinced that he could squat even more if he got control of that middle section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamNy View Post
    Sorry...didn't read the heading on the vid. I was to wrapped up in the squat. I found the relatively narrow stance style he used really impressive.
    I'm completely with you. I thought that squat was amazing; the adjustment he makes under the bar to push through the sticking point is nothing short of incredible.

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    What surprises me the most are his skinny legs able to squat 400kg.

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