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    Wolfeye is offline Banned
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    Default About The One-Armed Push Up

    I'd like to see something once & for all: Someone doing the one-armed pushup like in CC and explaining how to go about it (the finer points about body positioning, where your elbow should be, if you should flex your arm in a twisting motion, etc...). I think Al Kavadlo did it on Youtube, but it seems to generate a lot of speculation (which isn't a bad thing- I'm just looking for a definitive answer). I used to be able to do them "Rocky style," switching from arm to arm, but it seems to take a whole lot more strength to do them the way described in the book. Also- Looking for some advice on hand-balancing. I'd like to be able to do handstand push-ups with a full range of motion & preferably without needing to use a wall. Anybody got any tricks, tips, hints, or references on that?

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    Hello Wolfeye.

    First off, you're never going to get anything "once and for all" in a training forum. I'm going to tell you one thing, then someone else will tell you another, and so on I'm afraid.

    The bottom line is this: The CC press-up is do-able. But it's about the equivalent of a five-hundred pound bench press. It's incredibly difficult, and only a handful of men on the planet will be able to do it (and you certainly won't find them on this forum).

    For obvious reasons the CC films will be produced with RKCs. Strong as they are, they aren't strong enough to perform this movement.

    It makes me laugh when I read men on here saying "I've been trying to do the prison press-up but I just can't manage it, therefore it must be unattainable."

    I don't say this to attack anybody, it's just physics. Put three or four inches of muscle on your arms, bench five plates or train press-ups progressively for ten years. If you can do these things, then come back and try.

    I'm sorry but if you weigh ten stones soaking wet and have been training for less than five years, don't waste your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Ross View Post
    First off, you're never going to get anything "once and for all" in a training forum. I'm going to tell you one thing, then someone else will tell you another, and so on I'm afraid.
    True that. Many people like different ways of attaining skills. You'll have a hard time obtaining a concrete answer because of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Ross View Post
    The bottom line is this: The CC press-up is do-able. But it's about the equivalent of a five-hundred pound bench press. It's incredibly difficult, and only a handful of men on the planet will be able to do it (and you certainly won't find them on this forum).

    For obvious reasons the CC films will be produced with RKCs. Strong as they are, they aren't strong enough to perform this movement.

    It makes me laugh when I read men on here saying "I've been trying to do the prison press-up but I just can't manage it, therefore it must be unattainable."
    Like Henry said, physically-wise, it definitely is possible. Perhaps if more people were practicing towards one, we would see more videos of it.

    And I agree with the "dismissal" part. Personally speaking, I dismissed it as way-out-of-my-league for the moment once I saw many athletes that are far stronger than me fail at it. Perhaps in a few years, when I reach my other goals, I'll try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfeye View Post
    I think Al Kavadlo did it on Youtube, but it seems to generate a lot of speculation (which isn't a bad thing- I'm just looking for a definitive answer).
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRCA...layer_embedded
    That's probably the video you are referring to. A very nice Push-up, but obviously, if we want to get very CC-technical, not a Prison PU. I still think it's a very difficult push-up, and in all honesty, I consider a Push-up like that (elbow tucked in and feet together) a very reasonable goal to strive for in the long run.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfeye View Post
    Also- Looking for some advice on hand-balancing. I'd like to be able to do handstand push-ups with a full range of motion & preferably without needing to use a wall. Anybody got any tricks, tips, hints, or references on that?
    I'll give you one helpful hint. That business of "packing the shoulder" and keeping it away from your ears is NOT something you apply with handstands. You are supposed to do the opposite (shrug the shoulders). That allows you to open your shoulder angle more and obtain a straighter HS.

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    Thanks guys. I have one question 305pelusa: What do you mean that shrugging your shoulders will open your shoulder angle more? And also one for Henry Ross: How do you figure the one-armed push up is the equivalent of a 500 pound bench press? Did you mean in terms of how rare it is to find someone to do it or what? Because a one-armed handstand one would be about 400 pounds if you weighted 200. Was a little confused by that. If anybody's got the CC push-up DVD, does that havesomeone doing either one of those push-ups with the form illustrated in the book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfeye View Post
    I have one question 305pelusa: What do you mean that shrugging your shoulders will open your shoulder angle more?
    When you pack your shoulders (aka tensing the lats), your arms cannot go as straight up as if you were shrugging them. Try it for yourself. Put your straight arms overhead, shrug your shoulders (really trying to get the angle between your upper arm and lats to be as close to 180 as possible), then pack them. Repeat. Notice how much extra ROM you obtain from your shoulders by shrugging them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfeye View Post
    If anybody's got the CC push-up DVD, does that havesomeone doing either one of those push-ups with the form illustrated in the book?
    Prison Push-up Misconception
    Read that thread. Apparently, the Prison PU form from the DVD was a bit lacking. I haven't personally seen it however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305pelusa View Post


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRCA...layer_embedded
    That's probably the video you are referring to. A very nice Push-up, but obviously, if we want to get very CC-technical, not a Prison PU. I still think it's a very difficult push-up, and in all honesty, I consider a Push-up like that (elbow tucked in and feet together) a very reasonable goal to strive for in the long run.
    Not perfect prison pushup but in FAQ Wade wrote that bending body to the side is acceptable when you are learning that exercise.
    And yes, it's challenging but achievable exercise. At first I thought that it shouldn't be much harder than NW OAPU(I can do 5 of those) because sidebend allow me to place my wrist directly under my shoulder so I can use pecs and lats to assist triceps but I was wrong. It was way more difficult. I only lowered down few centimeters under control and then I fell down due to lack of strength. I need to work on bringing my feet gradually closer together in OAPUs.
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    I haven't read CC. Can someone outline the style of pushup we're talking about?

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    Just imagine a close-grip Push-up, but with one arm.

    Feet together. Hand is, at all times, under the sternum, and the body stays completely straight.

    The major difference with this PU and the others is the fact that, at the bottom of an usual OAPU, the hand is under the shoulder (and the elbow tucked to the side). Here, the hand would technically be able to touch the middle of the sternum at the bottom, and the elbow would be very close to the ground at the bottom.

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    Thanks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9A9aM126Yo
    Here is an attempt by Jim Bathurst (of Beast Skills fame, and I believe he was the model in CC too) to do what I believe is the skill you're describing, albeit on a bar and not the floor. Note, however, it is not an elevation, as he has padding under his feet to match the height. It's just grip on the bar rather than flat on the floor. I realise it's perhaps not 100% perfect, but since this was back in 2010 I wonder if he could do better now - or if he actually trained towards it, whether he might tighten things up a bit.
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