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    JJI14U is offline Junior Member
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    I thought it was great as are most of his kb DVDs

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    I can see both sides. I am also a fan of seeing what to do and just doing it. It looks great for someone who always makes excuses, this time around I'm going to follow Pavels direction to the letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozarkdude4 View Post
    Meow dude. You get out of bed on the wrong side? You could say that about any book written by current or former RKCs.
    I have been on this site forever and I remember the big thing was "there are no secrets" but you still see it being used to sell books, dvd, or whatever. If you don't like it, don't buy it. You just put down a lot of people who endorsed it or used it. Think before you hit reply.
    It's a semi-public forum. People come here to share their opinions and experience on questions and topics about things fitness related. I didn't think I was writing anything that inflammatory. It seems like a waste of money, so I said so. I'm pretty sure those that bought and enjoyed it do not care about my opinion because they liked it and thought it was worth it.

    Opposing opinions will obviously "put down" each other, as that's what happens when I think I'm right and you think you're right and we both care a bit about being right. Although I did not mean to be offensive and I don't think I was, being offensive or being offended come hand-in-hand with open discussion as everyone you deal with has different standards of propriety and morality.

    EDIT: Apologies to SpikeMan1444 for continuing this off-topic part of the thread. And good luck with your second PM attempt. Try to remember that faith in the process and the will to keep at it are the two most important things; it does work and you will get stronger!

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    It's cool dude lol the more the merrier. The workbook is free btw. I find that following the book will be the best way for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikeman1444 View Post
    The workbook is free btw.
    ... Did not catch this with my first search for it. Saw it on Amazon for ~$40. Now I feel a bit sheepish.
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    My thing was you judged it and never got it. Probably just regurgitating someone you know or follows review and didn't look before you burped. Its not about being who's right, it is about who can say they are wrong about their .02 cents worth.
    I have done it before and had to swallow pride and say "sorry for my ignorance.". Just trying to keep it honest.
    I did get the workbook long time ago and it makes it easy for those that need a visual aid, no problem in that. I stopped using it when I added pullups to the ladders. I like the book and effort. Worth a look.
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    That is not the official link...on the AOS site it is sold for $34.95. Probably be wise to remove the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbSagoo View Post
    That is not the official link...on the AOS site it is sold for $34.95. Probably be wise to remove the link.
    what?? Wow I didn't know, Sorry!!!!

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    Why do you assume that those of us that don't like it don't own it or haven't seen it? I'm very familiar with it, and I've seen many of the questions asked over and over on the forum that stem from it. I've seen people fail with the program because they were following the routine from that book, and then succeed when they stopped following it.

    For those following it, I would be interested to hear how long it took you, following the AOS book, to achieve the ROP goals of 1/2 bodyweight press and 200 snatches in 10 minutes with the 24kg.
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    The programs in ETK are excellent. However, the progressions are vague. For example, doing TGU's, do 5 minutes. Well, what happens if you own the TGU for 5 minutes. What now? Move up a kettlebell? Extend it to 10 minutes? Swings for 12 minutes. How should you progress? Heavier bell, More reps? Less rest?

    Rite of Passage. One hand or two hand swings? How long between rungs? How long between ladders? When should you move up a bell? What should I do if I can't do a pullup? You have to download a special report for tips on how to move up to the next bell.

    I followed ETK for over six months. And it works. I made up my own progressions. When the TGU got easy, I upped the minutes during the PM. When I could do 15 minutes, I upped the bell. For swings, I tried to add 5 swings every week or 2. For the ROP, even if I could do 5 ladders of 5, I stuck with that bell for 8-12 weeks, until I knew I owned it. I did 2 hand swings vs. one, because I felt it taxed my grip more. I had no problem figuring things out on my own.

    The problem is not everyone is creative with progressions. They want it laid out and that's where the workbook comes in. Would I buy it? No. But I can understand why people would.

    Personally, I think a great addition to the PM is Irontamers 101 workouts. The general conditioning and 30 under 30 add great variety to the monotony.

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