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    Spikeman1444 is offline Senior Member
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    Default AOS Workbook?

    Has anyone used it?

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    Avoid it. Every few months or so, someone comes on here who's been trying to follow it, and has run into problems because it takes a perfectly good program, and messes with it, not for the better.

    Ask questions here if you have them, use the search function, and read the faq thread. Most of all though, realize the part of the skill of getting stronger with any program lies in learning to pay attention to your own body, how you feel, keeping AND reading your training log, and learning to be your own teacher and coach to some extent.

    Not every last detail is filled in with PM and ETK (hence the frequent questions about manmakers, when the questions should be about ROP swings), and that's a good thing. It creates the flexibility for the individual and the program to meet each other halfway (also true of pttp). You'll be much better off in the long term just making the best use you can of ETK as written.
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    Awesome thanks!!! I've been through the pm once without it. Not everyone can go at one speed.

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    I used it. It worked for me. I did add reps to the sets towards the end, but other than that I pretty much followed it as written.


    Take what works and discard the rest. This applies to ETK, this forum and also to AOS workbook.

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    I used it as my first real entry into KB workouts. I ran through the whole thing ~3 times with heavier bells where I could handle it. I liked it, but the "active rests" moves are really hard. In some ways it worked for me.

    If I had to start over again, I'd probably try to first follow Pavel's instructions in ETK as best as I could with no additional material.

    I also liked Anthony DiLuglio's Providence DVD which I pull out and run through every now and then when I want a bit of variety.

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    Works just fine. For people that are looking for "just do this", there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

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    Works fine. I used it as part of my RKC prep. I'm particularly fond of having the numbers on paper and just doing the work.
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    It comes from an indomitable will"-Mohandas K. Gandhi.

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    I can't see how this is anything more than the PM and RoP rewritten from the amazon product description.

    "If you own Pavel Tsatsouline's popular kettlebell manifesto Enter the Kettlebell, you will love our "ETK" workbook. It turns the ETK philosophy into a detailed 12 week follow-along training plan. If you've had trouble creating your own ETK training program, this workbook is for you! Download this 56 page eBook and start earning your "Rite of Passage" today! Pavel specializes in teaching breakthrough fitness techniques to elite athletes and people who are naturally motivated. DiLuglio specializes in providing motivating programs based on Pavel's principles to get ordinary people started and keep them going. Anthony's typical client needs more structure and "follow-along" simplicity than provided in Enter the Kettlebell itself. This workbook is divided into 2 main sections: the Program Minimum and the Rite of Passage Each of these is broken down into weekly progressions with a specific checklist of drills for each day. The week starts with a preview and then the follow-along program itself. You should strive to complete the program in its entirety. If you do not complete a week appropriately, simply repeat that week before moving on."

    It can't be that hard to add a ladder or a few reps each week without an explicit guide; although, I think ETK is pretty explicit on how to progress through the program anyway. Even if you want the explicit checklist, it's easy to just make one yourself or xerox a few pages out from ETK.

    I haven't gotten it though, so maybe it has new content, but I feel ETK is so complete that this can't be anything more than a re-hash of an already solid and well-programed training protocol.

    EDIT: And if someone feels like ETK doesn't provide simple programing, they should re-read it until it does.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by kodo kb View Post
    I can't see how this is anything more than the PM and RoP rewritten from the amazon product description.

    "If you own Pavel Tsatsouline's popular kettlebell manifesto Enter the Kettlebell, you will love our "ETK" workbook. It turns the ETK philosophy into a detailed 12 week follow-along training plan. If you've had trouble creating your own ETK training program, this workbook is for you! Download this 56 page eBook and start earning your "Rite of Passage" today! Pavel specializes in teaching breakthrough fitness techniques to elite athletes and people who are naturally motivated. DiLuglio specializes in providing motivating programs based on Pavel's principles to get ordinary people started and keep them going. Anthony's typical client needs more structure and "follow-along" simplicity than provided in Enter the Kettlebell itself. This workbook is divided into 2 main sections: the Program Minimum and the Rite of Passage Each of these is broken down into weekly progressions with a specific checklist of drills for each day. The week starts with a preview and then the follow-along program itself. You should strive to complete the program in its entirety. If you do not complete a week appropriately, simply repeat that week before moving on."

    It can't be that hard to add a ladder or a few reps each week without an explicit guide; although, I think ETK is pretty explicit on how to progress through the program anyway. Even if you want the explicit checklist, it's easy to just make one yourself or xerox a few pages out from ETK.

    I haven't gotten it though, so maybe it has new content, but I feel ETK is so complete that this can't be anything more than a re-hash of an already solid and well-programed training protocol.

    EDIT: And if someone feels like ETK doesn't provide simple programing, they should re-read it until it does.

    Cheers,
    Josh
    Meow dude. You get out of bed on the wrong side? You could say that about any book written by current or former RKCs.
    I have been on this site forever and I remember the big thing was "there are no secrets" but you still see it being used to sell books, dvd, or whatever. If you don't like it, don't buy it. You just put down a lot of people who endorsed it or used it. Think before you hit reply.
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    It's amazing just how silly some people can get over this tiny little workbook. The author used to be a RKC before he went off on his own. Some people, myself included, sometimes just like things laid out nice and simple. For example, Geoff's Kettlebell Muscle. The actual 12 week lifting part of the program is on just a couple of pages in a very easy to understand table format. IMHO, the AOS Workbook is the missing chapter ETK should have had that consolidated the PM and RoP into a handy and concise workout plan. This holier than thou bull crap has no place here.

    ETA: If you don't like it, don't buy it. I have never heard of anybody getting their arm twisted to buy it. Likewise, I see a bunch of people trashing it that don't own it. I personally refrain from commenting on products I have no first hand knowledge of.
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