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    SPH-NW is offline Senior Member
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    Default Bodyweight before weight training? or does it matter?

    Ive been doing reading and some people suggest mastering some body weight exercises before moving to weight training? What are your thoughts?
    And if one were so inclined, would you recomend NW or CC to begain with?
    Im just asking this question for fun.

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    it does matter. people should reach at least some proficiency in bw training before using weight. example: if you can't do 50 perfect bw pushups, what the hell are you doing on the bench press?

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    i pulled that 50 number out of my ass, but hell, let's go with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPH-NW View Post
    Ive been doing reading and some people suggest mastering some body weight exercises before moving to weight training? What are your thoughts?
    And if one were so inclined, would you recomend NW or CC to begain with?
    Im just asking this question for fun.
    I don't see BW as mutually exclusive or a ramp up to weight training. Virtually anyone can get adequate exercise using their BW. I've never used NW or CC, but if I were getting one, I'd get CC.

    Think Herschel Walker. No freeweights, just body weight exercises, mostly push-ups and situps.

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    While I enjoy doing bodyweight exercises, or doing weighted versions of them, I have to disagree about that you "should" do them before weight training. If you want to bench, then bench. If you want to do pushups, do pushups. Just IMO.

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    I would advice beginners to do both: weight training and bodyweight exercises. One does not exclude the other, and they complement each other very good.
    [SIZE=1]I am not an expert. I just share my toughts which may be wrong. If so, please correct me .[/SIZE]

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    I don't think there's any reason you 'should' do anything. You can either lift weights, do bodyweight exercises, or combine them as you please and as equipment availability demands. I think the programming is more important than whether you're holding a barbell or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPH-NW View Post
    ... would you recomend NW or CC to begain with?
    I'd start with Super Joints.

    Quote Originally Posted by SPH-NW View Post
    ... some people suggest mastering some body weight exercises before moving to weight training? What are your thoughts?
    I think the kettlebell is the most user-friendly way to start resistance training. I'd start with Enter The Kettlebell.
    -S-

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    Im a S&C coach at a small highschool and i always require a certain standard with some bodyweight exercises for incoming freshmen before they are allowed using anything with weight resistance.The basic strength level of some is very poor coming into high school.Master the bodyweight requirements i set and then you have earned the privilege to move on to the weights.
    Some of my standards for students are 20 pushups chest to the ground and arms locked out every rep,50 free standing squats below parallel,planks for one minute.
    Bodyweight exercises in my opinion show you have the basic strength to move on to other strength resistance exercises and movements.

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    This is how Dave Tate puts it, "You should be able to perform 100 push-ups, minimum, before even approaching a bench press."

    As far as what you should or shouldn't do-- you SHOULDN'T even look at a bench press at EliteFTS with having mastered pushups. That dude is scary. And if you have not read his iron evolution articles, do.

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