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    Spikeman1444 is offline Senior Member
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    I'm also very fortunate I've never had to choose. I'm all or nothing sort of person and I hate mixing programs. So if I choose one or the other I do that and only that.

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    Well the fact that is you do choose. But that is a good thing. Choose goals first, then programs/tools second. Your body is a strength tool. Kettlebells and barbells are strength tools. Once your goal is clear and uncluttered, logic will dictate the program and tools...Dennis

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    to address the pros and cons part...
    when i moved to tamarindo, costa rica in 2010 i gave my kettlebells to friends i deemed the mostly worthy recipients (those who would actually use them regularly) Upon arrival I found that cost of living was not much cheaper and the only gym was essentially a MORE expensive 24hr fitness. I decided to forgo the gym and follow naked warrior plus some handstand work and lots of surfing.
    I got great results but found 1 limitation: it's very hard to replicate a swing or picking up something heavy off the ground with bodyweight training. The big pro's i found: 1)zero injuries. zero aches and pains. 2) very useful in getting lean. BW strength training doesn't make you lean per se, but it does incentivize leanness.

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    If I have other tools available I'm not choosing bodyweight.

    I have said this before for me it is more useful to strength train with external objects (weights) since in the real world I will be lifting, pushing, pulling etc. objects more than doing a balancing act.

    You cannot replicate squatting, benching, deadlifting, swinging, pressing with bw. I know people are going to say dude um a pushup or one arm pushup is like a bench press or a pistol is like a squat or a handstand pushup is like a press - no it isn't.

    If you count a ghr as bw you'd be doing a lot better. That is a big machine though so i doubt for our purposes here that would be allowed.

    I think the bw feats are really cool and obviously develop strength it is just something I personally have zero interest in doing myself.

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    ah this brings up an interesting experiment that will never happen: paul wade becomes the strength coach for the raiders while louie simmons works for the Broncos. for 10 years. who wins? (probably the organization with the better front office/scouting) speaking of...

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    There must be something about body weight training that keeps people coming back. Would you say it's possible to not see any progress eventually with body weight training?

    Many thanks for the thread guys! This is making a most interesting thread to keep me busy at work :P

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    The OP's question is about "maintaining athleticism and health in the long run". Not about what you like better. BW trng lends itself to keeping ones body fat at minimum and having the joints of the body able to move through its entire range of motion while strengthening and keeping the connective tissues of the joints healthy. Also far less injuries while having balance in all aspects of strength training. But nothing can beat an oly-bar as a tool for getting supa strong in the big lifts as a goal. But BW trng has the benifit of getting you strong and healthy through the entire spectrum of strength - minimum BF, flexibility, balance, body awareness, mental toughness, max strength over your lifetime with few injuries..Dennis

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    Dennis health wise probably do some bw stuff, flexibility stuff, and eat mostly veggies and some lean meats.

    I'd rather not live forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJ79 View Post
    Dennis health wise probably do some bw stuff, flexibility stuff, and eat mostly veggies and some lean meats.

    I'd rather not live forever.
    That's a great plan RJ79!

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    I think even using a "light" to "modest" load on things like a sumo deadlift with a KB would lend itself to great health and longevity.

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