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    bwwm is offline Senior Member
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    I think it would have been better if John explained up front what he was doing to Pavel's account and why, right after it was done. It would just make the speculation less speculative I think.

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    A few thoughts:

    "We are saddened by the loss and proud of our shared accomplishments. We will have him complete currently scheduled training obligations and continue to sell works authored by him, including a soon to be released new publication. However, we cannot allow him access to our forum." (Paraphrased, obviously, but WT???)

    Also, unless I am mistaken, the initial thread containing comments about this news from forum members has been deleted ? Wow !

    Finally, if the originator of a system leaves the associates with whom he began that system to start a new association to offer such training, why would anyone want to then attend trainings with the old associates ? How could the old associates make a legitimate claim to comparable quality of instruction?

    At some point, in the spirit of honesty to customers, the differences of "vison" need to be stated. Skeptics might suspect that, in the end, it was all about money. While specifics are no one's business but the principals, the reason should be disclosed.

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    I think they deleted that thread because a few of us complained that Pavel's account shouldn't have been 'banned' (myself included). I haven't received any warnings yet about my posts here, so I can't say for sure.

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    I never expected to see news that Pavel was leaving.
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    It's all very strange how posts on the forum seem to be lacking all of a sudden. I have seen hot topics get lots of replies, posts and opinions building up very fast. Seems not to be happening now.....?


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    If this is the school of strength -

    Sometimes strength is about holding your nerve, keeping some perspective, or not jumping to quick conclusions. Or all 3.

    It's going to take some time. I don't think there's much more John can do at the moment publicly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai Johnson View Post
    An update from Pavel on the situation.
    This, in my opinion is not an appropriate post in John's forums (not yours, Pavel's). I am not taking sides of who is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faizalenu View Post
    This, in my opinion is not an appropriate post in John's forums (not yours, Pavel's). I am not taking sides of who is right.
    I've always respected your opinions even if I don't (as in this case) always agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faizalenu View Post
    This, in my opinion is not an appropriate post in John's forums (not yours, Pavel's). I am not taking sides of who is right.
    As long as Pavel's picture is plastered all over this site and his products are for sale here, updates about him are appropriate here.

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    I like your style Iron Tamer.

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