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    Default Thoughts on my, and ur experiences of, CC leg raise and pull up progress

    Gday all.

    Im currently still on step 1 of leg raises, CC. My next session im looking at 2 sets each of 23 24 and 25 reps. At the start it took me a couple of months to even get the correct feel for doing these knee tucks. Was feeling it mostly in the quads. Going through my log, ive mostly only progressed by 1 rep each session so its taken ages and will still take a fair while. I definitely feel the workout because i can barely progress beyond the previous session.

    I officially started CC in February!! Would it be safe to move onto step 2 of leg raises now or perhaps when i reach 2 sets of 30 reps at the least?

    Somewhat the same deal with step 2, horizontal pull ups. I was using a bar way to low for too long when i finally ordered a home pull up bar that i could adjust to what ever height i require. I got it in august and all progress before that was at a maximum of 2 sets of 14. Ive slowly crept up to 2 sets of 18. Feel the burn in the forearms and fingers more than anything when i do them as well.

    So I'm curious about other peoples experiences, would love all the insight i can get. Cheers.

    Rhys.

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    In the beginning, the high rep ranges are difficult but attainable. The only time I skipped a step was after 3 straight weeks with zero progress. That only occured during step 7 of squats which prompted me to add airborne lunges as a step 6.5. As long as you're adding at least 1 rep more per week, it's beneficial to keep trying at your current step.

    I was tempted to skip certain steps that took 6 months or longer to reach progression standard such as close squats and uneven pullups. Eventually I reached the goal for progression and now I finish my Wednesday workouts with 30 close squats and 9 slow uneven pullups per arm.
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    Knee tucks took me about two years to complete. Everytime I was making good progress, something would put me off the path, be it illness, not leaving strength in the bank or my bad sleeping habits. It's really frustrating when you get 38, 38, 28 reps one week and the week after, you can barely make it two-thirds of the way.

    This year, I started afresh around Feb/March, at about 3x19 reps or so. Forced myself to be patient, adding only 1 rep per set each week. Then came the night of Saturday 21st July. A few hours back, I had just completed the first of about 30 days of fasting. I started my knee tucks. "I will get 3x40 today!"

    First set of 40 reps. All was okay. 5 minutes rest. Second set of 40. It was starting to get tougher. 5 minutes rest. "Please, God, let me achieve this today." Third set, rep 39; I was outta breath, could barely breathe. I started rep 40, pulled my knees in, exhaled. My head was about to explode. Extending my legs, I finished the rep. All with proper execution. I stood up. I was invincible. I was on top of the world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Comrade View Post
    Knee tucks took me about two years to complete. Everytime I was making good progress, something would put me off the path, be it illness, not leaving strength in the bank or my bad sleeping habits. It's really frustrating when you get 38, 38, 28 reps one week and the week after, you can barely make it two-thirds of the way.

    This year, I started afresh around Feb/March, at about 3x19 reps or so. Forced myself to be patient, adding only 1 rep per set each week. Then came the night of Saturday 21st July. A few hours back, I had just completed the first of about 30 days of fasting. I started my knee tucks. "I will get 3x40 today!"

    First set of 40 reps. All was okay. 5 minutes rest. Second set of 40. It was starting to get tougher. 5 minutes rest. "Please, God, let me achieve this today." Third set, rep 39; I was outta breath, could barely breathe. I started rep 40, pulled my knees in, exhaled. My head was about to explode. Extending my legs, I finished the rep. All with proper execution. I stood up. I was invincible. I was on top of the world!

    2 Years is a long time for a Step 1... You should've moved on a long time ago, you could've achieved Step 10 Leg Raises by now and built a strong set of abdominals.

    I don't think Coach Wade spent 2 years on Knee Tucks, nor he endorses anyone else to do the same. If you do knee tucks for 2 years in prison , it is going to look very bleak for you...

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ~ Albert Einstein

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    Knee tucks were super hard for me! I hung in there and got through them. I am not looking at my training log now, but I think I spent at least 3 months to get through them. Then the other leg raises steps were easier so far for me.

    As long as you are making some progress....even though super slow, I'd say keep at them.

    But then again, I'm very stubborn...which has been both good and bad in my life.

    By the way, I've never made the true progression of horizontal pulls, just to keep it real. I got to the progression reps with the bar at a little below sternum level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Comrade View Post
    First set of 40 reps. All was okay. 5 minutes rest. Second set of 40. It was starting to get tougher. 5 minutes rest. "Please, God, let me achieve this today." Third set, rep 39; I was outta breath, could barely breathe. I started rep 40, pulled my knees in, exhaled. My head was about to explode. Extending my legs, I finished the rep. All with proper execution. I stood up. I was invincible. I was on top of the world!
    I know that feeling haha! 2 Years is hella long time, i recon ill try to push a little harder.

    Thanks HEAPS everyone for posting! Reassurance specifically from this forum is like gold to me! Your all awesome.

    Cheers.

    Rhys.

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    If I was you I would move on from the Horizontal Pulls after you hit 3x30 at sternum. A lot of people on here have done this and it is advised by Paul Wade too in his FAQ.

    As for Knee Tucks, I think I did them for 2 months and hit the progression very shakily but I dont think that has limited me in the later steps although I am struggling at 3x24 at the Flat Bent Leg Raises now and only increasing a few reps every week but getting there. The knee tucks hit my hip flexors most and not really my abs but when these strengthened it got easier for me.
    [COLOR=red]CC Start Date:[/COLOR] 23rd June 2012
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    Quote Originally Posted by KallosThenos View Post
    2 Years is a long time for a Step 1... You should've moved on a long time ago, you could've achieved Step 10 Leg Raises by now and built a strong set of abdominals.

    I don't think Coach Wade spent 2 years on Knee Tucks, nor he endorses anyone else to do the same. If you do knee tucks for 2 years in prison , it is going to look very bleak for you...

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ~ Albert Einstein
    Maybe my post wasn't clear enough. It did not take me long because of my inability to achieve 3x40 knee tucks but because of something cropping up at one time or another. Mostly, it was my bad sleeping/rest habits; lack of recovery always forced me to regress substantially. The other reason was impatience; I would try to add multiple reps and not leave strength in the bank, which also forced regression. Believe it or not, all this really did make a difference. I did get better after making these changes. If things were done properly from the beginning, I would have finished knee tucks in less than 6 months. Also, if I'd moved on, I would have probably hit the same problems with step 2. Right now, I am doing well on step 2 and I do not regret having stuck with step 1; they gave me a good foundation, I believe.

    You would normally be right to quote Einstein in my case but remember, I DID get there in the end and I HAVE built a strong set of abs; they are so, so much stronger than they were two years back, stronger than even a year back. My abs have never been this strong or hard. Doing the same thing over and over again gave me different results, in my case!

    Also, part of the reason was getting a sense of satisfaction; I can tell myself that I did not give up, that I endured. For others, it may not be a big thing but for me it is a huge deal. Growing up as a kid, I was never very athletic and now I have found something I can do. I would be gutted if I ever skipped a step.

    Also, I don't think I would have reached step 10 by now though; in my case, CC has been slow but still, it has been extremely effective.

    Sorry for long post
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    Quote Originally Posted by shezz150 View Post
    I know that feeling haha! 2 Years is hella long time, i recon ill try to push a little harder.

    Thanks HEAPS everyone for posting! Reassurance specifically from this forum is like gold to me! Your all awesome.

    Cheers.

    Rhys.
    Good luck. You'll get there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Comrade View Post
    Maybe my post wasn't clear enough. It did not take me long because of my inability to achieve 3x40 knee tucks but because of something cropping up at one time or another. Mostly, it was my bad sleeping/rest habits; lack of recovery always forced me to regress substantially. The other reason was impatience; I would try to add multiple reps and not leave strength in the bank, which also forced regression. Believe it or not, all this really did make a difference. I did get better after making these changes. If things were done properly from the beginning, I would have finished knee tucks in less than 6 months. Also, if I'd moved on, I would have probably hit the same problems with step 2. Right now, I am doing well on step 2 and I do not regret having stuck with step 1; they gave me a good foundation, I believe.

    You would normally be right to quote Einstein in my case but remember, I DID get there in the end and I HAVE built a strong set of abs; they are so, so much stronger than they were two years back, stronger than even a year back. My abs have never been this strong or hard. Doing the same thing over and over again gave me different results, in my case!

    Also, part of the reason was getting a sense of satisfaction; I can tell myself that I did not give up, that I endured. For others, it may not be a big thing but for me it is a huge deal. Growing up as a kid, I was never very athletic and now I have found something I can do. I would be gutted if I ever skipped a step.

    Also, I don't think I would have reached step 10 by now though; in my case, CC has been slow but still, it has been extremely effective.

    Sorry for long post
    Great attitude and purpose! Keep it the excellent (and hard) work New Comrade.

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