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    mattyg2787 is offline Member
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    So, I bought enter the kettlebell ages ago but finally got around to reading it over the last few days. I have a couple of questions though

    1)I play offensive line in American football. Getting bigger isn't an issue for me but being strong is. Will kettle bell training along with conditioning training (drags, running, skipping, jumping etc) Big ones for those who don't know much about American football, it's all about hip drive, fast feet and a strong punch. Will i get enough leg and hip power with swings, cleans and snatches?
    2)With the timed sets on snatches, how do you work both sides? In a 10 minute test, do you switch at 5 minutes or what? This is one thing that confused me.
    3)If I train 3 times a week, should i be snatching one day. clean and press the next then swings and get ups on the last? if not, any suggestions for me.

    Thanks for your help in advance everyone

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    BillLumbergRKC is offline Senior Member
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    1)where do you play on the line?
    2)do your best to describe your team mandated strength and conditioning program. Include philosophy and level of supervision.
    a)what weight kbells do you have access to?
    3)measurables-age? weight? height? vertical jump?
    4)when is game day? friday night or saturday morning?
    5)describe your on the field strengths and weaknesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyg2787 View Post

    2)With the timed sets on snatches, how do you work both sides? In a 10 minute test, do you switch at 5 minutes or what? This is one thing that confused me.
    Switch hands whenever you feel like it. You aren't required to do any number or length of time per arm.



    3)If I train 3 times a week, should i be snatching one day. clean and press the next then swings and get ups on the last? if not, any suggestions for me.
    The book tells you how to do this.

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    1)guard and center
    2) I'm playing amaeteur level in Australia so we have no team strength building. We will do a few bw exercises and a whole heap of running starting around May. I do train with a mate down at a local oval before work
    A)at the moment I own 2x20, 1x24, 2x28. And 1x32kg. I'm happy to buy more.
    3)25 years old, 6'2", 320lbs (dropping this to about.280 is one of my goals). Not sure of my vert leap
    4)game day is Saturdays with night training Monday and Wednesday
    5)my main weakness is my speed. My pass set is fairly strong but my run game needs work

    Thanks

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    If you are in Australia, your best bet is to contact Andrew Read.
    He is One of the best coaches around and is RKC.

    There are some other RKCs already in Australia, so you can also refer to them.
    i would contact Andrew first

    Hope this helps
    Guara

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    very busy till sunday, but i'll get back to you then.

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    Matty - gulf-sierra beat me to it. What city are you in?

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    Since no one has responded to your first question... Yes
    And if your problem is speed and some extra flab, hardstyle swings (and the other ballistic exercises) are the perfect "treatments".
    If you are in-season, I'd suggest the PM and maybe work on (read: practice) snatches every once in a while. If your are not in-season, do the ROP as written.
    Read the book, practice the drills, and repeat as necessary.

    Good luck with your training!
    Josh
    "I can't imagine how it WON'T work...save you not doing it." — Dan John

    "I never went to the gym to "work out". Rather I went to LEARN. The workout was incidental." — Dr. Ed Thomas

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewR View Post
    Matty - gulf-sierra beat me to it. What city are you in?
    Canberra

    Kodo kb - My season literally finished yesterday. I'm taking a couple of weeks off to let my body recover properly but I should be starting up training again in december.

    Thanks for the feedback guys, BillLumberg, I look forward to your thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyg2787 View Post
    Will i get enough leg and hip power with swings, cleans and snatches?
    No, not even close. The "hip hinge" that generates power in the swings/snatches is a different movement than a squat. You can use kettlebells for front squats, but at your size, you'll probably need more than 60kg (28 + 32).

    3)If I train 3 times a week, should i be snatching one day. clean and press the next then swings and get ups on the last? if not, any suggestions for me.
    The Program Minimum is 5 minutes of get-ups 2 days a week, 12 minutes of swinging 2 other days a week. The Rite of Passage is 1 day of light snatches & presses, 1 day of medium swings & presses, and 1 day of heavy swings & presses, with 2 optional days of heavy, very-low-rep work.

    Neither program is good for American football.

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