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    lokate is offline Senior Member
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    Default Minimal training for martial arts

    I have read i a post from Pavel that Martial rtist have to focus on the 3 lifts, bench and deadlift one day and bench and squats the other day. So just two days a week.
    Are there guys on this forum who are martial artist and have tried this routine? And if so, what are the results?
    It seems like a very simple routine but if it works its great off course. Its just because you read so must on martial arts forum off guys who train 6-8 exercises in a workout and doiing curls, dips, pull-ups etc.
    And what if you follow the routine, can you still incoperate some kettlebell days (or in combination with that workout)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokate View Post
    I have read i a post from Pavel that Martial rtist have to focus on the 3 lifts, bench and deadlift one day and bench and squats the other day. So just two days a week.
    Are there guys on this forum who are martial artist and have tried this routine? And if so, what are the results?
    It seems like a very simple routine but if it works its great off course. Its just because you read so must on martial arts forum off guys who train 6-8 exercises in a workout and doiing curls, dips, pull-ups etc.
    And what if you follow the routine, can you still incoperate some kettlebell days (or in combination with that workout)?
    I am a martial artist - primarily krav maga but also work some BJJ and pekiti tirsia kali in as well. I have found that keeping it very basic two days a week outside of martial arts practice works well. I have gone through phases of doing the PM two days a week, KB complexes two days a week, heavy C&P and KB squats two days a week, whatever. I have tried to do it all, but if you are really going hard in your MA practice, it becomes counter-productive. For instance, when I am working BJJ seriously and rolling 2-3 times a week, do I really need to do a lot of extra pulling like pushups or rows? I don't think so. Especially not at 47.

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    I do 3 days a week of KB lifts. Using the ROP from Enter the Kettlebell . It has made me stronger than when I was on a 3-4 day a week 5x5 program.

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    Default Its true

    When I practice martial arts 2-3 times a week its very hard to make time to train other things because my martial arts training is very demanding.
    Its just because I didnt have to much time lately so do only thing I did was supplementary training. Of course this is very wrong, my focus has to be on martial arts and when I have the time/energy then I can train other things. I am a little bit older to and I can feel that the body has trained a lott all these years. My ego gets in the way so then I want to try to do it all :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokate View Post
    When I practice martial arts 2-3 times a week its very hard to make time to train other things because my martial arts training is very demanding.
    Its just because I didnt have to much time lately so do only thing I did was supplementary training. Of course this is very wrong, my focus has to be on martial arts and when I have the time/energy then I can train other things. I am a little bit older to and I can feel that the body has trained a lott all these years. My ego gets in the way so then I want to try to do it all :-)
    You can't do it all. I've been on the same track. If MA is your primary focus, then the strength training should be just supplementing. You'll never get anywhere making them both #1. Other than broken down. Been there, done that.

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    Default Yes

    You are right, I know now :-)

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    For me focusing on conditioning has been the most helpful with my martial arts in the last year. I did very short 10-15 minute workouts of wind sprints and swings or jump rope.

    For strength I would pick a routine that can be done with minimal time investment and that uses a couple whole body movements. PTTP would be my choice if I were using a barbell. Just do 2 or three workouts a week. Since PTTP can be done in about 30 minutes it won't take much time unless you have to drive far to a gym. My second choice would be CC since it takes a little longer but you can do that practically anywhere. If I were to use only KBs I would do goblet squats and C&P.

    Today is going to be my first day starting a new program though which should take about 45 min a day. I will be doing the same short conditioning workout but adding a 30 minute routine that is Sandow's light dumbbell routine.

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