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    tigheguy is offline Senior Member
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    Just wondering where people find there clubbell workouts, i just got a pair and struggling to get going. I have dvd but looking for more?

    Thamk you

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    I am in the same boat. I am sure the DVD helps. so you are a bit ahead of me but still they are complicated. Best of luck.

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    I assume you are talking clubbells and not Indian clubs. I learned the basics from a DVD that came with a pair of Indian clubs. Clubbells are too heavy for most Indian club moves, so I just found stuff on Google and YouTube, and played with them trying different stuff. My favorite move I discovered just moving them around. It is a clean from inside the arm to the outside, then bringing the hand with the club handle in it up towards my ear while elevating my elbow and shoulder, then leaning into it and pushing it forward across and over my shoulder, levering with my shoulder pulling it forward. I find it is a powerful internal rotator of the humerus and protracts the shoulder, using the pec minor, pec majors, and maybe the serratus. My tricep also feels it, so I must be extending the forarm in the motion but I doubt I'm getting a full extension.

    There is also a back-and-forth rotation of both humeruses, rotating one forward and the other one back, and then reversing. I copied it from an excerpt of a video of hindu wrestlers doing it. Another one is an alternating outward rotation, pivoting from left to right, right to left, left to right, etc, that I copied from some movements I saw Sonnen do.

    Like Mike Mahler says, I think for most things kettlebells are equal or superior, especially outward rotation movement. And, it is commonly said that most people overdevelop their internal rotators, so in some ways that isn't too important. But, it's something I'm still working with, so I may yet discover some more useful movements with them.

    In sum, keep playing with them, learning about them, exploring their potential would be my take on them.

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    Before I came across kettlebells I was searching for tools and methods to fix my back and shoulders from decades of lifting and working out incorrectly. Getting out of bed was especially painful and I was not sleeping well. Crotchety old guy with hurt body stuff. Anyway, let me back-up...I ran across kettlebells right about the same time I learned of clubbells. Time to decide - the Pavel Tsatsoline way or the Scott Sonnen way. So I went the kettlebell route and the rest is history. On Youtube there is alot of videos of Scott Sonnen's Clubbells moves and methods. He developed the Clubbell - so he is the best source you will find out there. But if you got Clubbells, may I guess correctly that you know of Scott Sonnen? He is the go-to guy...Dennis

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    I learned a bunch of drills from a Scott Sonnon video. The ones I do regularly are swipes, mills, shield casts, pendulums, drumming, 360s and 10 to 2s (two handed drills with heavier clubs that are usually used with maces), plus a few others that I don't have names for. I do various combinations of single club, double club and two handed work, depending on the drill and the weight of the clubs I am using.

    For programming, I basically freestyle it. I often pick a menu of drills and just do 1 or 2 sets of each to a comfortable stop. I don't use them in an organized progressive fashion but, as per Easy Strength, if I just do relatively easy sessions on a regular basis, my capacity goes way up over time.

    There are a couple of disciples of Scott Sonnon who sell clubbell programs, although I have no personal experience with either one:

    http://daretoevolve.tv/products/

    http://www.clubbellcoach.com/training-black-book/
    Last edited by Steve W.; 02-01-2013 at 08:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve W. View Post
    I learned a bunch of drills from a Scott Sonnon video. The ones I do regularly are swipes, mills, shield casts, pendulums, drumming, 360s and 10 to 2s (two handed drills with heavier clubs that are usually used with maces), plus a few others that I don't have names for. I do various combinations of single club, double club and two handed work, depending on the drill and the weight of the clubs I am using.

    For programming, I basically freestyle it. I often pick a menu of drills and just do 1 or 2 sets of each to a comfortable stop. I don't use them in an organized progressive fashion but, as per Easy Strength, if I just do relatively easy sessions on a regular basis, my capacity goes way up over time.

    There are a couple of disciples of Scott Sonnon who sell clubbell programs, although I have no personal experience with either one:

    http://daretoevolve.tv/products/

    http://www.clubbellcoach.com/training-black-book/
    I was turned off by Sonnen's marketing campaign, especially on the "dare to evolve" page. Doesn't have anything to do with clubbells, though. Here is an old man who seems to swing the things around pretty well. I learned the inside and outside slasher flow from him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOh_Lj7jGkk You might check it out, never know what you might learn from an old hippie!

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    You mean Willie Nelson does clubbells?..hehe! A little off topic - but Pavel's HS kettlebell/strength methods of high tension and irradition etc.. seems at odds with Scott Sonnen's free flowing kinda loosy-goosy "old hippie" moves ( I mean this in a good way - not sarcastic) correct? Sonnen is a strong guy and does alot of bw stuff along with his clubbells - but his body build has more of a softer look than a Kettlebell guy like Pavel with they more "chiseled" definition. Shows you that different body types and methods can still get to the same destination of strength. Just a random thought with probably no substance thrown out there..hehe!...Dennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by ad5ly View Post
    You mean Willie Nelson does clubbells?..hehe! A little off topic - but Pavel's HS kettlebell/strength methods of high tension and irradition etc.. seems at odds with Scott Sonnen's free flowing kinda loosy-goosy "old hippie" moves ( I mean this in a good way - not sarcastic) correct? Sonnen is a strong guy and does alot of bw stuff along with his clubbells - but his body build has more of a softer look than a Kettlebell guy like Pavel with they more "chiseled" definition. Shows you that different body types and methods can still get to the same destination of strength. Just a random thought with probably no substance thrown out there..hehe!...Dennis
    Hard to say. I agree Sonnen usually looks softer in many pictures, but I have also seen pics of him looking pretty chiseled. I believe he is a Master of Sport in Sambo, and I'm certain he is a coach (American national team?) and high-ranking competitor (runner-up for Russian national champion), as well as a certified kettlebell instructor. But I think you're right, there are many roads to the goal of strength.

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