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    Bradley is offline Senior Member
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    Default Another round of PT, no progress whatsoever in 8 years

    I've been through a dozen or more bouts of PT for my knees over the past 8 years and have literally nothing to show for it. I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. They either give up or tell me nothing is wrong, when I know for a fact that that is not true.

    I'm two weeks into another round. Just saw them today, and tomorrow I'm going to tell them if they can't show me anything new that actually helps or come up with some theory about what's wrong that makes any sense that I'm not going to complete the PT. So far it's the same old same old.

    I suspect there might be something else wrong, like bowed legs or some other deformity that has developed over time that makes things feel the way they do but I have no idea how to get this checked out. All the doctors I see truly seem clueless. They either suggest to stop doing anything remotely strenuous or to just deal with it. It's pathetic actually. I can't get anyone to even take seriously my complaints it seems. They just lump it into generic knee pain category.

    I have no idea what to do. What kind of doctor to see, what kind of PT to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdave100 View Post
    Might be time for a radical diet change.
    Why is that?

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    well it all depends. since when do you have these problems? how old are you? how much do you weight and whats your body composition? do you have problems in any other joints? male or female? etc etc.

    Any one of those or any combination of those could be the problem. You might even have something that just hurts but isnt a "real" problem (i had/have osteocondritis but dont feel it anymore)

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    I sense your frustration. You say the docs find nothing wrong. Or they just don't know.

    things to consider:
    1. Injury history.
    2. What activities cause the pain?
    3. Is the pain constant?
    4. Can you do perform a bw squat without pain?
    5. Does walking or running hurt?
    6. Does prolonged standing hurt?

    It could be that you are doing too much in your program. You gave no details in what you are actually doing program-wise. Too many reps, too much volume, too much weight? Maybe CC would be something to work with.

    Inspect your shoes. Maybe worn or bad fitting shoes are making things worse.

    It could maybe be nerve damage?

    Hope you figure this out. Good Luck..Dennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by rammpeth View Post
    well it all depends. since when do you have these problems? how old are you? how much do you weight and whats your body composition? do you have problems in any other joints? male or female? etc etc.

    Any one of those or any combination of those could be the problem. You might even have something that just hurts but isnt a "real" problem (i had/have osteocondritis but dont feel it anymore)
    My problem is the opposite. It's something that doesn't always hurt but that is a real problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ad5ly View Post
    I sense your frustration. You say the docs find nothing wrong. Or they just don't know.

    things to consider:
    1. Injury history.
    2. What activities cause the pain?
    3. Is the pain constant?
    4. Can you do perform a bw squat without pain?
    5. Does walking or running hurt?
    6. Does prolonged standing hurt?

    It could be that you are doing too much in your program. You gave no details in what you are actually doing program-wise. Too many reps, too much volume, too much weight? Maybe CC would be something to work with.

    Inspect your shoes. Maybe worn or bad fitting shoes are making things worse.

    It could maybe be nerve damage?

    Hope you figure this out. Good Luck..Dennis
    I'm not doing too much. I'm barely doing anything. Aside from PT all I'm doing for my legs is trying to squat occasionally with relatively light weight, and legs extensions, mostly just as a test. But the PT's not working and it's never worked, regardless of how much other stuff I was doing.

    Pain is not the problem. I can't get the PT's to understand this, apparently. They ask me about pain, and while pain is a problem, it's not the problem. Even when I don't have pain I can feel that my legs are messed up and not working properly. So it's almost a worthless means of determining if I'm making progress, though right now, my legs are worse since starting this bout of PT.

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    Are you injured, or have an inborn defect?

    What is your training history?

    What sort of PT are you going through now?

    How do you feel that your legs are not working properly? A PT who 'understood' that "pain is not the problem" would not really be a PT, but a quack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman View Post
    Are you injured, or have an inborn defect?

    What is your training history?

    What sort of PT are you going through now?

    How do you feel that your legs are not working properly? A PT who 'understood' that "pain is not the problem" would not really be a PT, but a quack.
    Sorry, but your last statement is nonsense. I DO have pain, but even when I don't have pain my legs feel terrible - awkward, out of alignment, and the muscles feel funny. If they don't recognize this as a problem, regardless of whether or not I'm feeling pain, THEN they area quack.

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    Can you recall what happened 8 years ago? Car accident, electrical shock, training mishap? This sounds more and more like a neurological problem. But I am no doc just guessing. Step #1 is to identify what you are dealing with. Until that happens people will just br pulling stuff out of their butt ( all with good intentions) to help you. I do hope you find a doc that is helpfull..Dennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley View Post
    Sorry, but your last statement is nonsense. I DO have pain, but even when I don't have pain my legs feel terrible - awkward, out of alignment, and the muscles feel funny. If they don't recognize this as a problem, regardless of whether or not I'm feeling pain, THEN they area quack.
    Not really. If your communication with the doctors is equally articulate and open as your posts in this thread, pain might be the only information they have to work with. "My muscles feel funny" isn't exactly conducive to a diagnosis...

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