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    GunnyHighway is offline Senior Member
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    Default Which is easier, cutting fat or building muscle?

    For you and why? Which is easier, cutting fat or building muscle?

    It seems counterintuitive, but in my later years cutting fat seems easier. All that takes is discipline. Building muscle has more factors.

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    Personally, I would definitely say cutting fat. For me I just get involved in some project or studying a new topic, I will drop 10 lbs just from missing so many meals. (Of course, that's a lot of muscle wasting. If you mean strict fat loss while maintaining muscle, I don't know)

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    Initially cutting fat was far more difficult because in order to do so I had to change the way I think about eating and break free from the on going all day long urge to eat junk. Cutting out the fast food, chips, sodas, cheese and bread while drastically increasing my intake of vegetables and fruit and water and making the good eating replacing the bad eating takes alot of time. I have lost weight in the past but never did come close to eliminating the underlining problem about control. Today for instance I started the day with an 8oz glass of cold water. Then gulped down a pot of plain strong black coffee. ( BTW I like my coffee like I like my women..black and bitter..hehe!!) And for lunch I had a bowl of Miso soup and a handful of almonds and blueberries or a large green salad. This does it for me until around 7 or 8 pm...and tonight is my birthday (59yrs) and I will enjoy my dinner at a Southwestern Cuisine resturant (Ted's) where I will totally enjoy the evening. Muscle building has allways been easy for me as I have allways been a stocky guy. In fact I would prefer not to have not as much muscle ( but still have definition) as long as I still be sumbitch strong..hehe!!...Dennis

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    I think it depends on the person and the type of and how many hormones that they produce. I have been training people for a long time and have seen people have difficulty with either goal. Of course their ability to discipline themselves to eat more or less (depending on their goals) comes into play as well.
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    I'm currently researching Intermittent Fasting. Still confused what the difference is between IF and "caloric reduction" (basically, just not eating too much ^_^ )

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    Quote Originally Posted by chixlegs View Post
    I'm currently researching Intermittent Fasting. Still confused what the difference is between IF and "caloric reduction" (basically, just not eating too much ^_^ )
    IF for most people makes calorie reduction a lot easier, so long as they don't drastically change the calorie density (cal/lb) of the foods they are eating. And it does train your body to switch back and forth from burning glucose to burning fat, much more easily and quickly.

    There are quite a few IF modalities out there, and you have to pick one that works for you. I like Fast-5 and have been doing it for a few months. The whole protocol is a free giveaway, eBook here.

    Fast-5 E-book (full text PDF of the paperback book published in 2005.) | Fast-5 Life

    Worth a look at least as most all of what is in there is generalizable to all IF formats. Good background and motivational stuff

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    So far, for me, cutting fat is entirely a diet thing. I've spent so many years lifting heavy and eating like sh*t (with the excuse for it being that I "lift heavy"). That was dumb and dumber.
    A diet really isn't as easy as people think it is. I've realized I can cut weight pretty fast If I stick to raw veggies and meat alone. Sounds simple, right? Wrong. It is HARD to find carb-free fast food meat in the city. Chicken mcnuggets and tons of "meat dishes" come slathered with fructose and starches (teriyaki sauce, barbecue, ect....). For me, I can't get a fat burning meal unless I make it at home, which can be a serious pain in the lifestyle.

    So yeah, I think cutting's actually a lot harder. Gaining weight (or "bulk", whatever that is) is relatively easy for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintm View Post
    A diet really isn't as easy as people think it is. I've realized I can cut weight pretty fast If I stick to raw veggies and meat alone.
    That's my experience too. Although I find that completely cutting out carbs is not necessary. Cut back a little on your simple carbs, pile up heavily on the veggies (make sure you finish them greens, these will really fill you up and reduce your desire to put more simple carbs into your system), add on some more meat.

    Intermittent Fasting really helps too. I applied the Eat-Stop-Eat approach of fasting strictly 2 days of 24 ~ 30 hours within a week, and then eat to (or just under maintenance) for the other 5 days.

    I knocked off approx 1.5kgs of fat and dropped 8 kgs of body weight within 1 1/2 months. Have regained 2 kgs over the festive period binge-eating (approx 3000 ~ 3500 calories per day for about 2 weeks), but have definitely kept 6 1/2 kgs off.


    In contrast, I find it's harder to bulk up.

    I think it differs from person to person. I know a friend that had MASSIVE problems losing weight, he applied the Lean Gains approach to IF, but only lost 10 kgs over 10 months, but his bulk was impressive, he went from scrawy to impressive within 2 months. Although I think a lot of that "bulk" was toning of existing muscles from when he was fat (fat people need more muscles to move their heavier body weight around too, right).

    I'm not sure how much your body type will ultimately impact your efforts, but ease of cutting or bulking definitely differs from person to person.

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    Veggies, whole grains (and I mean whole), legumes, are all loaded w/ carbs and no need at all to give them up. What you need to give up is refined, processed carbs that mostly have much of the fiber removed, much of the nutrient content lost, and due to the grinding and processing, a much higher glycemic impact. If you stick to whole foods, and just eliminate the manufactured stuff, you will do fine. Too much protein (meat) will stress kidneys and may even cause bone loss over time.

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