The world’s premier network for those seeking to share and discuss high-impact,high results, super practical information for the developmentof superiorphysical performance.
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 16
Like Tree1Likes

Thread: getting stronger while under stress

  1. #1
    ad5ly is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    4,607

    Smile getting stronger while under stress

    I had this thought for awhile about the notion that you might just be able to accellerate strength gain and muscle growth if you are exposed to long periods of stress and duress. I look back on my USMC bootcamp experience as an example. For an 18 year old undergoing military bootcamp in any service - it can exceedingly stressful on a mental/emotional level. All the uncertainities and fear of having the full wrath of Drill Instructors in your face for just about anything must cause drastic hormonal changes especially if the experience is over a long extended period of time. - But forget about bootcamp - thats just small potatoes when compared to life in prison - or a gulag. All that stress/fear/anger in prison combined with prison workouts has to produce stronger, meaner, more aggressive individuals. Its primal instinct. Your body and mind know that you need to get stronger to survive. Thats the reason why prison inmates who strength train look so jacked. Even while on a prison diet they get stronger. Unlike us on the outside - they have less distraction and more focus because they have to. For most of us outside the prison wall, the routine of strength training is pretty much a pleasant pastime or activity. We have all the other mundane and routine happenstances of our life unfolding before us. And we do not live in a constant state of fear or uncertainty. Another story for those wearing orange pajamas. But perhaps its not just the workout alone. Its the total experience of living with fear so strong that it has a smell and a taste. That effect on hormones has to have some effect. Maybe good or bad. I don't know. Just some rambling thoughts from an old fart who doesn't know jack!!. Lets have some discussion this forum is WAY TOO QUITE!!!..Dennis

  2. #2
    Johnny SWAT is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    23

    Default

    I think you hit the nail on the head with the focus bit Dennis. That's all these guys have to look forward to..must make it much easier to train with fury.
    It kinda reminds me of when I was deployed overseas when I was younger in a different life. The first few months of the tour were painfully boring and we were confined to camp. We hit the primitive gym we'd set up really hard, partly out of sheer boredom. I used my day to plan my next day's workout. I remember the guys in my platoon becoming monsters! Even with the less than ideal camp food and rations. It was easy to bring intensity to those workouts in those days..

    Johnny

  3. #3
    Wolfeye is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    943

    Default

    The thing about stress is that it's not a "constant upward gradient" (if that's the right term for more & more increase). Keep in mind, a lot of people did NOT do well under these harsh conditions- someone can get starved, beaten, or frozen to death & someone else might not. A big part of the issues of prison is being in that random "what descends on you" environment.

    In prison, the motivation of survival is probably a point, as is boredom, as is having something that's yours & that you direct (Paul Wade mentioned this in his first book). The military seems to have some aspects of this, too.

  4. #4
    Moses Correa is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Hainesport
    Posts
    335

    Default

    I think it is an individual thing. Some people can use stress and difficulty as fuel and some people it will make weaker. I think that is all comes down to the "have to" of the person.

  5. #5
    GeoffreyLevens is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    606

    Default

    Some people can use stress and difficulty as fuel and some people it will make weaker.
    On word--"cortisol"

  6. #6
    ad5ly is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    4,607

    Default

    I never been to prison - knock on wood..hehe!!..But I imagine that when an individual winds up behind bars - on the first day a decision is made. Either submit and accept all the unfortunate circumstances that befall you - or rise above it and seek to thrive in those circumstances. Darwinism period. Constant stress for some is like a drug - and they like it. For others its pure hell. So training when in that state may or may not work - depends. But you have to decide because you are IN THERE...Dennis

  7. #7
    ad5ly is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    4,607

    Default

    I wonder if the effects of a prison enviroment (with all that has been discussed) would actually make the Convict Conditioning program more productive if you trained in the prison situ, or would just training CC as most of us do - at home and in the safety of our normal and boring life would yeild the same result. On the plus side if you trained outside prison you would have better nutrition. Also on the plus side you would NOT be in prison..hehe!!...Dennis

  8. #8
    Red Boar is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    269
    Blog Entries
    80

    Default

    In the GULAG, you were dead in about 2 weeks

  9. #9
    Wolfeye is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    943

    Default

    Red Boar- Yeah, there was a short life-expectancy in the Gulag. I really think that prisons were a bad move for humanity. Not just on its own, but also what it facilitates. I don't figure that no one ever deserves attack, of course- but prison is generally not proportionate to what someone has done & if that were the case, then it makes more sense to kill that person (although a government agency can't always be relied on to make that decision well).

  10. #10
    Chris Hansen is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    2,158

    Default

    There's no doubt that increased focus can be beneficial but I keep hearing and reading about how stress can hurt your progress, it cuts into recovery and stuff. It sounds like having more stress in your life requires a lower workout volume. I've had anxiety issues in the past though and that led to some great workouts.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Free Course
Close