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    We have just released a new book by Paul Wade, only available as an ebook for now (the paperback will be out in about two months) Here is the link for more information (and big thanks to Adrienne Harvey for taking the great cover shot with Al Kavadlo and Danny Kavadlo:
    C-MASS (e-book) | Dragon Door

    BTW, Paul has promised me the final manuscript of CC3, which will be about explosive bodyweight training, by October...
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    Sounds good. Is this like those Ten Commandments of Calisthenics Mass that was out on the internet a while ago or is there more? Also, how much will the book be?

    Great to hear about CC3! So it'll be in print quickly after that? Like maybe by December? Such a long weight (haha!- unintentional pun), can't weight (planned that one)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfeye View Post
    Sounds good. Is this like those Ten Commandments of Calisthenics Mass that was out on the internet a while ago or is there more? Also, how much will the book be?
    WAY WAY WAY more than just the 10 commandments of Calisthenics Mass...... and it's still in launch discount mode, so go get it, Wolfeye! C-MASS (e-book) | Dragon Door
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    The price is right so I ordered it.

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    Can anyone give any more detail about it? Sounds pretty interesting!
    It's not about how hard you can hit but how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward!!

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    Can someone at Dragondoor explain something to me? I'm really baffled by this new title apparently focusing on using calisthenics to add mass, and Wade even writes in the Ten Commandments on the PCC blog that these methods are *superior* to barbell training methods for adding mass.

    Really? Why that focus, a focus that seems ridiculous on its face...even the models in the book, the Kavadlo brothers, are far from hugely muscled guys (and that is not to take ANYTHING away from them, they are strong and fit, but they aren't big, and they don't need to be and aren't claiming to be).

    Look, I no longer use freeweights, I am focusing on bodyweight methods, kettlebells, and sandbags, and having a lot of fun doing so, but I'm looking for balanced conditioning and strengthening, I know those methods wouldn't be the right ones if I wanted to (even if I could) add a lot of mass as fast as possible.

    All the bodyweight stuff is great for what it is, it seems like false advertising to push the mass building aspects of it, especially claiming that they are better than freeweights. If it isn't false advertising, let's see an example of someone who got very big JUST using bodyweight methods. Anybody?

    I have purchased LOTS of Dragondoor products over the years, I've attended workshops AND gotten private instruction by RKC's, so this isn't a 'hate on DD' post, but I have to say, I don't like the marketing exaggeration/hype I'm seeing. And it isn't necessary!

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    It describes in more detail how a bodybuilder might use calisthenics. The basic principles are pretty similar regardless of the tool used so there might not be any huge surprises. If that seems ridiculous you might not be interested. There is also a section on prioritizing strength with minimal mass gain and why bodybuilders should spend some time doing that. I was curious and, at the special price of under $10, I decided that was in my price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom View Post
    WAY WAY WAY more than just the 10 commandments of Calisthenics Mass...... and it's still in launch discount mode, so go get it, Wolfeye! C-MASS (e-book) | Dragon Door
    One thing though.

    I already have CC1 & CC2 as well as both of Al's books, I'm far more concerned about strength gains rather than mass gains.

    Is there anything of value within the C-Mass book for me then? The only thing that I was even interested in was the section about inverse hyperextensions because my hamstrings are quite a bit weaker than my other body parts.

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    Hi JLB,

    I'm a new poster (occasional lurker) BUT I've just read this book cover-to-cover so I hope I can help.

    Quote Originally Posted by JLB View Post
    Can someone at Dragondoor explain something to me? I'm really baffled by this new title apparently focusing on using calisthenics to add mass, and Wade even writes in the Ten Commandments on the PCC blog that these methods are *superior* to barbell training methods for adding mass.
    No he doesn't. At all. I have just re-read both his posts you refer to on the PCC blog and searched the answers. You seem to have made this up!

    Quote Originally Posted by JLB View Post
    Really? Why that focus, a focus that seems ridiculous on its face...even the models in the book, the Kavadlo brothers, are far from hugely muscled guys (and that is not to take ANYTHING away from them, they are strong and fit, but they aren't big, and they don't need to be and aren't claiming to be)
    In one section Paul Wade discusses the fact that most modern athletes neither want to be wiry and thin, nor hugely muscled--most want some muscle, without being too big. This is why he chose the Kavadlo's as ideal models.

    Again, this is all very clear if you actually read the book, rather than just reading the ad copy and making presumptions on the contents.

    Quote Originally Posted by JLB View Post
    Look, I no longer use freeweights, I am focusing on bodyweight methods, kettlebells, and sandbags, and having a lot of fun doing so, but I'm looking for balanced conditioning and strengthening, I know those methods wouldn't be the right ones if I wanted to (even if I could) add a lot of mass as fast as possible.
    Paul Wade writes that most people just don't know the appropriate methods for adding muscle with body-weight, being only aware of using body-weight for "skill" or "strength" or "fitness". You are exactly the kind of athlete is book seems to be written for.

    Quote Originally Posted by JLB View Post
    All the bodyweight stuff is great for what it is, it seems like false advertising to push the mass building aspects of it, especially claiming that they are better than freeweights.
    I think you'll be pleasantly surprised that none of this attitude is in the actual book, at least the Kindle edition. In fact, in the Q and A section of the book, Wade says very clearly that you can use free weights or body-weight to build muscle, the principles are exactly the same. He just prefers writing about bodyweight. This denigration of barbell training that you seem to be anticipating from reading the ad copy does not actually appear in the book, anywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by JLB View Post
    If it isn't false advertising, let's see an example of someone who got very big JUST using bodyweight methods. Anybody?
    Actually that's quite a surprising thing to say. There are many very muscular body-weight athletes around the world. Aside from the thousands of muscular gymnasts (who don't even train for muscularity!), Google men like: Hannibal for King; Hit from Calisthenics Kingz; and the awesome Denis Minin. Even Bobby Pandour. These men have all built wonderful physiques exclusively utilizing body-weight methods like the ones Paul Wade promotes. They are not as big as pro bodybuilders, simply because they do not take cocktails of drugs--that kind of bloated mass would mitigate against their body-weight efforts.

    That took a long time! Re-reading it, I hope it doesn't come across as a "rant" my friend, I simply wanted to answer your queries, JLB, while I had the contents of the book fresh in my mind.
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    Well, if it's got that much more than I'll get it. Will the book have a discount at the beginning? I'm not real concerned with size (not a skeletally big person, so there's a limit to how big I can get without running into mobility & usable clothing issues), but I'd like to learn more about it & the general workings of athletic development.

    I'd much rather have the book, since there's nothing to "deactivate." I've never once tried to turn the page of a book & had it go "TING" & not do it. I've never had it tell me it encountered an error & snap shut or have the letters jump off the page because one thing or another wasn't updated. I know this is a bit of a rant, but with books you just have ink on paper & as long as that doesn't cahnge, it'll be usable. With computers & machines, there's all kinds of things that have to go right- at the very least, the power flow has to be maintained. A machine has to be sustained & an object does not, is basically what I'm saying.

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