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    Yes, others already replied, thats exactly what I meant by milking. I call it the fun period, when I try to make particular excercise harder and get the most of it. Especially slower pacing is a lot of fun (read burnt muscles )

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    You don't have to switch your grips at all. Actually, it makes sense to do it with both grips, just alternate them every now & then- as it works different stuff. I remember I had done them overhanded for a long time & then when I switched to underhanded it actually ached!

    Sometimes you even do climbing things underhanded (rolling yourself up onto the top of something or you might have to put your hands behind what you're climbing up), so I'd suggest doing it both ways.

    Speaking of which, does anyone know of any good climbing books? I'm particularly interested in free-climbing, but I also want to learn the kind with ropes & carabiners. I have one & it's got interesting stuff in it, but some of it isn't very detailed. I'm looking for something that goes beyond an introduction on all these things in a clear way, ideally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martymonster View Post
    Simply throw a towel over the bar and grip both ends then do your pullups. Feel free to hate me.
    Brilliant idea. Hate you already though

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    In the pull up video series, they tell the viewer to use whatever grip feels natural and comfortable to them. I personally use neutral grip as it is the most comfortable for my shoulders and elbows.

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    Alternate grip where one hand is palm outward, and the other is palm inward. Especially useful if grip strength is weakest link as in deadlifting...Dennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComradeCat View Post

    You ain't gone done recommend the really bad one yet. I suggest, false grip pull-ups on rings. That one hurts like a knife in the back.
    There is a difference between passive hatred and the active kind. In active hatred they can be bothered to hunt you down (for either food or sport).

    But if it makes you feel any better...Pavel once documented the benefits of having a partner hit you (gently) while you are holding some position. Bodybuilders used to call this heightened awareness training. You'd go to failure on some movement and then ask your partner to 'Do the RIGHT THING'...at which point they'd slap you in the chops...and then you try to pull another rep!

    Perhaps we should make 'Knife in the back' pullups using a false grip ring pullup while someone whacks you with a rubber baton?

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    Well if anyone's interested here's my update.

    I was doing step 3 pull ups with an overhand grip and managing sets of 15, 11
    I switched to underhand this week and achieved 11, 7

    I am happy I switched though. I feel it in my biceps and forearms a lot more than before. But my lats and pecs are still sore the next day too (although not as much). I think I'll be a lot better prepared for step 7 (whenever I get there) now.

    Since it's the first time I've done underhand in several months, I'm predicting big rep gains next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin Kenny View Post
    Well if anyone's interested here's my update.

    I was doing step 3 pull ups with an overhand grip and managing sets of 15, 11
    I switched to underhand this week and achieved 11, 7

    I am happy I switched though. I feel it in my biceps and forearms a lot more than before. But my lats and pecs are still sore the next day too (although not as much). I think I'll be a lot better prepared for step 7 (whenever I get there) now.

    Since it's the first time I've done underhand in several months, I'm predicting big rep gains next week.
    Most people that accomplish a OACU will do it utilizing an underhand grip. It makes the balance much more intuitive, the ROM is bigger, and it doesn't feel awkward like a OAPU in my opinion. So you are right that at some point, you want to specialize your grip. That point, however, comes when you begin doing asymmetrical or weighted work. Meaning, anything harder than chin ups (and even then, you'd be wise to work some overhand weighted pull ups too).

    Anything before that stage however, like rowing or regular pull-ups, can be done with either grip. I promise you doing two-arm rows with an underhand grip will not better prepare you for a OACU than using an overhand grip. The exercise is too easy in comparison, and dissimilar enough anyways.

    If they both feel natural (and I can't imagine why they wouldn't with rows), I'd pick the HARDER of the two grips so that you get stronger in general. Or do a row session with one grip, then another session with the other grip. There's absolutely nothing to be gained from focusing on only one grip at such an early stage, and you might as well be strong on both.

    Just my opinion. I'd imagine the soreness comes from the tweak in the exercise. I would also expect big rep gains next time you workout. Hope that's helpful!

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