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    Quote Originally Posted by martymonster View Post
    Whereas the words of a completely anonymous stranger with no verifiable professional qualifications are so much more valuable?
    An anonymous stranger led me to finding the doctor whom I had to fly halfway across the country to see and who finally correctly diagnosed the cause of my leg discomfort after 10 years of listening to "experts." 20 doctors over 10 years, and probably almost that many physical therapists, every single one of those "experts" dismissing my concerns about misalignment.

    So in my experience, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305pelusa View Post
    When it comes to your health and well-being, I think this is terrible thinking.



    A doctor has EVERYTHING to lose by screwing you over. They have to pay ridiculous insurance quotes just to protect themselves from the wealth of mal-practice suits. On the other hand, if they make a correct diagnosis, they have EVERYTHING to win! You will refer them to other people, and they'll make much more money/help more people this way.

    If a doctor ever gave you incorrect advice, it wasn't because he meant to do it. But rather, because he THOUGHT it was the correct thing, but later on realized it was incorrect. Sucks to suck. Your body is very complex.



    They do get taught A LOT of stuff that will probably not apply to your condition. That only speaks to how much more knowledge they have over everyone else though. And they ARE the fucking shit when they graduate. Do you have any idea how much of a sacrifice that career is? Undergrad, plus grad school. Plus specializations and fellowships. US has an insane shortage of health professionals because the career is so intense and difficult. If you graduate with a PhD, you're also the shit in my mind, because you've clearly put an AMAZING amount of effort into such a profession. This applies even more so to doctors/PTs/health professionals.

    And I'm sorry to hear that your doctors have scheduled follow-ups to check up on you. What's funny is that if they did not schedule more tests or a follow-up, you'd probably complain about how little time they put in deciphering what was wrong with you.



    I have no idea what you're basing you "it's not real common". You've clearly not worked with doctors before. I've seen them go through tens of patients a day, helping each and every one of them. I guess you've had a bad experience.



    The best advice you'll get from the internet is TO GO TO A PROFESSIONAL. Someone who can touch you, move your leg through a given ROM and take notes in it. See your posture, daily habits, workout regime.
    Stop wasting your time in this thread where you apparently have people telling you that it might not be worthwhile to do what we're all recommending you to do.
    In my experience many doctors are some of the most arrogant, hubristic, and irrational people in the world. And through arguments I've had with some of them they tend to be among the least intellectually honest people I have ever come across.



    MOST of the doctors I've seen aren't like this, but all the young, newly minted doctors definitely are. I somewhat kept in touch with someone I knew from college and someone from high school. And one young guy came along with an older doctor who saw me for my legs, and he was a total jerk and completely talked down to me. That's 3 out of 3 for the young ones.

    They usually think they're the smartest guy in the room. And the young ones are TERRIBLE about this.

    That's not to say they don't have a vast resevoir of knowledge, and they're certainly not dumb. And their eduction is grueling. A guy I know who is now a doctor says becoming a doctor is one of the worse things you can do for your health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad5ly View Post
    Diagnosis by internet for advice about SERIOUS medical problems makes about as much sense as DIY brain surgery. Doctors good or bad, are PROFESSIONALS. Sure, docs make mistakes but they still are your best bet...Dennis
    If I had relied solely upon doctors I would have NEVER found out what was wrong with my legs. Yes, a doctor was the one to eventually confirm it, but I knew what was wrong for the past 7 or so years, and I only got a correct diagnosis because I knew the previous doctors were all wrong and only a few of them were even slightly receptive to my opinion.

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    And I did go to a doctor, and a physical therapist after posting the original message. But I'm not going to limit myself to the experts because experts are often wrong, and are too confident in their expertise.

    Turns out the doc and PT don't agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley View Post
    And I did go to a doctor, and a physical therapist after posting the original message. But I'm not going to limit myself to the experts because experts are often wrong, and are too confident in their expertise.

    Turns out the doc and PT don't agree.
    Here's what blows my mind:
    1) That you visited a doctor AND a PT in a period of 48 hours. That's pretty amazing.

    2) That you had two health professionals talk to you, try to understand what was wrong, and came to a conclusion after examining you. And that you somehow think someone on the web, who does not know you, sees you, or can even touch you, will somehow make a better diagnosis.

    Anyways, SINCE no one has posted anything to aid your glute on this thread, could you please tell us what conclusion your doctor came to, and his proposed solution? And what conclusion your PT came to, and his conclusion? I'm very curious as to what people who can actually physically work with you believe you have.

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    Like I was saying earlier, they get put on a pedestal & it causes problems. I don't get how the way someone is somehow is not a factor. There's a big belief in how someone can be an asshole, but do good work. If they're an asshole, that might knock their work off course. Just like an arrogant cab driver can cause accidents or start saying "I'll drop you off wherever the hell I feel like" to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305pelusa View Post
    Here's what blows my mind:
    1) That you visited a doctor AND a PT in a period of 48 hours. That's pretty amazing.

    2) That you had two health professionals talk to you, try to understand what was wrong, and came to a conclusion after examining you. And that you somehow think someone on the web, who does not know you, sees you, or can even touch you, will somehow make a better diagnosis.

    Anyways, SINCE no one has posted anything to aid your glute on this thread, could you please tell us what conclusion your doctor came to, and his proposed solution? And what conclusion your PT came to, and his conclusion? I'm very curious as to what people who can actually physically work with you believe you have.
    Have you even read my other posts? The reason I don't implicitly trust the words of the professional should be obvious. They have an appalling track record, at least in my own experience.

    And in my experience doctors usually don't have the time to actually sit and listen to you give all the details of your problem. PT's do.

    Doctor didn't tell me much. X-ray showed nothing. Getting an x-ray seems dumb in hindsite anyway.

    He didn't think it was sciatica. He thought it was some problem at the SI joint. Like the connective tissue around it is bothered. He just said to do PT, foam roll, etc.

    The PT thought it was something like sciatica. And I'm leaning towards what she said because she put me in a position that felt better. I asked her if the position I was in, basically the "cobra" position was supposed to feel better given her sense of the problem and she said yes. So I'm going to go with her opinion for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley View Post
    Have you even read my other posts? The reason I don't implicitly trust the words of the professional should be obvious. They have an appalling track record, at least in my own experience.

    And in my experience doctors usually don't have the time to actually sit and listen to you give all the details of your problem. PT's do.

    Doctor didn't tell me much. X-ray showed nothing. Getting an x-ray seems dumb in hindsite anyway.

    He didn't think it was sciatica. He thought it was some problem at the SI joint. Like the connective tissue around it is bothered. He just said to do PT, foam roll, etc.

    The PT thought it was something like sciatica. And I'm leaning towards what she said because she put me in a position that felt better. I asked her if the position I was in, basically the "cobra" position was supposed to feel better given her sense of the problem and she said yes. So I'm going to go with her opinion for now.
    I've read your other posts. Just because you've had bad experiences with doctors/PTs in the past does not mean that they are not your best choice.

    Regardless, I don't know why you'd go to a doctor. This is clearly a muscular issue. You go to PTs for that stuff. And it seems like she might have been close to a correct diagnosis, as she found a drill that relieves pain. Perhaps heeding her words will be useful.

    I'm glad she was able to help you far more than this thread though :/ I really don't know much about that sort of pain.
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    305pelusa: Don't know what you mean about nobody giving any advice. I could have sworn I gave some advice that was at least something along the lines of a suggestion toward the beginning of this.

    Bradley: I have a deep distrust in them & their doctrine. It's a case of "If the left don't getchya, then the right one will," in my opinion. Sure, people have been helped by them- but I don't see that as reason to believe that's always what's going on. Priests have helped people, too. No one seems to think their expertise in their field is a condition that means that they definitely won't start anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfeye View Post
    305pelusa: Don't know what you mean about nobody giving any advice. I could have sworn I gave some advice that was at least something along the lines of a suggestion toward the beginning of this.

    Bradley: I have a deep distrust in them & their doctrine. It's a case of "If the left don't getchya, then the right one will," in my opinion. Sure, people have been helped by them- but I don't see that as reason to believe that's always what's going on. Priests have helped people, too. No one seems to think their expertise in their field is a condition that means that they definitely won't start anything.
    Sorry, I didn't mean to say zero advice was given. I meant advice that actually worked and helped him. I figured since the OP sort of ignored your suggestions (did not seem to comment on them ) about pushing in different directions to work different parts of the glute, and to visualize the pain not coming, that they had failed to work. Especially since he ended up seeing two health professionals even after you suggested that.

    That's what I meant by "no one has posted anything to aid your glutes" and "PT was more helpful than this thread". My wording is terrible and unfair, though I didn't mean it that way. I didn't mean to say no one gave him any advice. You certainly did far more than I did, but that's mostly because I have little knowledge of these things, so I'd just end up handing out useless advice

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