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    I'm built to squat. Short legs/arms & a loooong torso. To compensate I lift off 3in boards which increases my arm/leg deficit and reduces my torso surplus. The odd thing is I squatted for 20+yrs but my legs never grew like the they have since dropping the squat and adopting the DL. The entire posterior side of legs now after 20+yrs overshadows my quads by a ridiculous degree. I can't find anything anywhere to explain this? Squatting heavy weights for high reps for 2+ decades should have given my Platz-like legs....but it ever happened until I started DL'ing. The same thing w/ my glutes.

    As much as Pavel rails against HIT and Arthur Jones I find it coincidentally odd how Jones squatting/deadlifting advice of 30+reps is basically the same thing as Pavel's "commando" w/out.

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    Looks like Pavel & I aren't the only ones.....

    https://www.naturalstrength.com/2014...art-i.html?m=1

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    As I got older I found out that I needed more recovery time. No longer do I lift 5 days a week. now its 2-3 days a week. GTG would be an exception. In between days is movement and mobility and perhaps some HIIT...Dennis

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    I cleaned up the thread but I want to emphasize what I said in my first post. PTTP is about as close to the perfect bodybuilding program as you'll find. My biggest problem is the implication that you must use world record level poundages which simply isn't true. I believe you can get all your going to get from strength training without using more than 400lbs with most rarely needing to use more than 365lbs & no human needing more than 500lbs EVER.

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    Arthur Jones once said re: strength training/bodybuilding "This is stuff is as old as dirt, and just as simple". Which is why I don't understand why he just about completely ignored the DEADLIFT. He made tens of millions ($$) selling machines that none of produced on a 1:1 ratio the possible results of simply bending over and in good form picking up a relatively heavy barbell. Ultimately what I'm trying to say is IF pttp had been published in 1971 I doubt Jones would have made anywhere near the cash he did to a gullible public who did not know DL'ing as "little" as 315lbs for 20 sets of 3-5 reps would have given them more results than using his Nautilus machines. Jones made weightlifting cool and easy to do primarily because they didn't have to hurt their soft girly hands developing leather-like callouses from a barbell's knurling.

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    Pavel does say in the PTTP video to lift no more than 4× per week IF your bodybuilding which as it pertains to me means three days rest between w/outs.

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    Last edited by G29; 08-05-2019 at 06:58 AM.

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    I really want to re-emphasize what it took me over 20yrs to learn. The use of super-heavy "world record" (exaggerated to make my point) poundages is totally unnecessary. I believe you can get all your going to get out of DL's w/out using more than 400lbs and NO ONE regardless of large/strong they actually OR think they are needs IMO to use more than 500lbs in the DL for a 1st of five reps. Sure there are many men who can for one shaking, capillary bursting rep, wrapped up like mummy using a 1in thick PL belt and a steel suit can DL 1,000lbs...but its totally unnecessary for building size and strength. Paul Anderson never grew any noticeably larger when he progressed from squatting 500lbs to 700lbs and beyond. Its just not required.

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    If your goal is to compete you need to train to your maximum potential. Cycling weight is how you do it. I am not a competitor so I can train as I want to. As far as lifting super heavy weights, I believe that one should do so once in awhile. Upping a PR for a big lift is a boost to your confidence. I like having it register in my brain that "hey I actually lifted that weight for a new PR!". But I do realize that lifting maximal weight too often is like getting too close to a hot stove. You can get burned...Dennis

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