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    canada_rick is offline Member
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    Default Converting bodybuilders (warning, its my opinion)

    It's a shame comrades. Ever look at the newstand for info on strength training ? Mostly what you will find is one bodybuilding magazine after another showing steroid bloated clowns and most of the workouts they put out are crap. Ghost writers fill the pages of many an article to boot. I have even seen some better workouts come out of Mens Health magazines. Why is this important to me ? If this all that is available to our youth then they will copy what they see as their heros. Too bad stuff like powerlifting USA or Milo wasn't available at most news stands. Alot of garbage is pettled in these magazines like training to failure, hitting every single muscle with 3 angles of exercise and isolation out the wazoo. So alot of people try these clown routines and make gains for what ? a week, then they spin their wheels. Please comrades do what you can to influence your freinds, family and associates on what becoming strong means ! Besides as Pavel has pointed out you can be bear and strong too.

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    BarelySane RKC is offline Senior Member
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    Default Re: Converting bodybuilders

    It's very frustrating.
    My close friend and former training partner refuses to see anything beyond HIT..he's quite strong, but improvement escapes him. I try to help as I can, introducing some of Pavel's (and similar ) information,
    and am usually met with resistance, if not outright hostility.
    But, what can ya do?

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    amadan1981 is offline Senior Member
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    Default Re: Converting bodybuilders (warning, its my opinion)

    I agree with you. I see those magazines all the time at the grocery store. I used to work there, and on my break once I picked one up and read some of it. It was disgusting. I put it back before anyone saw what I was reading! When I first started lifting weights, I was following the programs in Arnold Schwarzenegger's encyclopedia. He talks about Sandow, Saxon, Groener, and other old strongmen in the begining of the book, so I figured it was all right. But luckally I very soon found out what modern bodybuilding is like, and found Power to the People on Amazon.com. I've been doing PTP, RKC, a bit of Olympic lifting, and Steve Justa's type of training ever since.

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    Default Re: Converting bodybuilders (warning, its my opinion)

    Why convert them? The fewer people know about serious conditioning, the better for those who do. My favourite opponents are those who think strength training consists of 8 sets of bench presses, 12 sets of biceps curls, and a few leg extensions for good measure.

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    Default Re: Converting bodybuilders (warning, its my opinion)

    It's all about making money, and has very little to do about getting stronger.

    There are very few gyms or health clubs where powerlifters are welcomed, and there are many that don't even have a power rack. Forget about chalk and overhead lifting. Many powerlifters today are training in key clubs, basements, and garages, out of sight of the normal person looking to get into shape.

    Beginners can't find someone who can show them the right way, so they wind up following these crazy workouts in the BB magazines. Or they get instruction from trainers who have them squatting with their feet six inches apart and their heels on 2.5 lb plates.

    I don't even care about the bodybuilders, they know what they are getting themselves into, what is much worse is the influence bodybuilding has on the new people getting started with weight training.

    OBTW, this is the same disease that killed off olympic weightlifting in this country, so it's been around for a while. I also think that this is why we get our asses kicked at the Olympics every year.

    My two cents,

    Dale

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    Default Re: Converting bodybuilders (warning, its my opinion)

    Comrades, corrupt the masses by teaching them high tension+low reps+cycling on teh bench press and such; then, when they have gained and been convinced, push them towards deads etc.

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    Rob Lawrence is offline Senior Member
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    Default Re: Re: Converting bodybuilders (warning, its my opinion)

    Wow, that's frank. No arguing with the logic

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    Default Re: Converting bodybuilders (warning, its my opinion)

    Right on comrade! I agree with you totally. As a trainer, I'm educating my clients about how to really get strong. Nobody argues with results!

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    Default Re: Re: Converting bodybuilders (warning, its my opinion)

    Good points Andy! Im in the PT field and yes we are very limited by Insurance companies. We may only get them as far as the toilet, so true. Why bother trying to convert people so easily led by the fitness industry. Be an example yourself and then slowly you can influence one person and so on. Arnold brought it to the masses and it has changed a lot of people's lives but now its become so excessive and full of fantasy. You are in your 60's and im in my 40's, we can be and am examples to our friends and co-workers fo good solid training. I am able to give a little advice in bits and pieces to some of the PTs I work with.

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    Default Re: Converting bodybuilders (warning, its my opinion)

    Comrades, great posts! Also the simple answer, We lead, influence, and convert by example. I've spent the last 5 week with my KB, I'm a better man for it and the people around me are starting to notice. Power to the Party!
    Comrade Jeff

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