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    canada_rick is offline Member
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    Default Push Press and power clean ???

    Hello comrades ! 13 days left in Bosnia ! Anyways todays questions...
    (1) When doing push press, should elbows be in front of as much as possible or more under the bar at the start ?
    (2) Should the weight be pushed up and slightly overhead or forward ?
    (3) In the power clean is the starting position the same at the romanian deadlift ?
    (4) When doing the shrugging motion up in the clean, should your elbows be pulled back or out to the sides ?
    (5) Snatches with barbell, should the arms stay poker straight throughout or should there be some give and lock out at the end of the movement ?
    Again comrades thanks for those who answer and train hard and smart !

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    Default Re: Push Press and power clean ???

    Comrade, go to the following link and click on the exercise that you have questions about and watch the video clip!

    http://www.exrx.net/Lists/PowerExercises.html

    Good Training....ZenTrainer!

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    Default Re: Push Press and power clean ???

    Rick - goheavy.com has an Oly. Lifting forum and they would be more than happy to respond to these questions, but here is what I know-
    1) Elbows slightly forward and slightly up. You should find a grip that is comfortable for you in the "rack" position.
    2) The weight should be pushed overhead, ending up in a position directly over the ears.
    3) Essentially yes, shins vertical, legs bent,"high chest" and back arched. Deltoids slightly in front of the bar. Keep the bar close to shins.
    4) Elbows should go sraight up until you whip them forward to get under the bar. They will point out to the sides. They should not go back.
    5) For a Power Snatch yes, for a classic snatch not exactly, the guys at Goheavy.com are better for this question.
    Well, I hope that I helped. Hang in there in Bosnia! Best of Luck, Derek

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    Default Re: Push Press and power clean ???

    Canada_Rick,
    I've always performed cleans and snatches as extremely fast deadlifts. Your arms should be thought of as hooks, and allowed to be as relaxed as you can safely maintain them. They should also be straight, as this will allow you to impart the maximum amount of momentum/power to the bar. The shrug at the top should be the result of the momentum generated by the pull, not a seperate movement. As you pull yourself under the bar, keep your arms relaxed, as this will allow them to move quickly. I've lost countless cleans and snatches due to "tight" arms. After you've received the bar, you then tighten up and recover. Hope this helps.
    Regards

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    Default Re: Push Press and power clean ???

    The starting position for the power clean does not matter. You can do them from the floor, from the hang below the knee, from the hang above the knee, from blocks, whatever. The thing that makes it a power clean is that you do not squat deeply to get under the bar and therefore have to pull the bar higher than in a full clean and can not use as much weight.

    For push presses, support the bar on your front delts with your elbows forward. You won't get nearly as good power transfer from your leg dip and drive if you try to support the bar with your arms from underneath. In fact, depending on your wrist flexibility you may be holding the bar with most open hands at the bottom.

    With snatches, the bar should move in nearly a straight vertical path. You keep the arms straight as long as possible for good power transfer from the back and legs, then the elbows bend as you drop under the bar and straighten again before you catch the weight overhead. In competition you are not allowed to "press out" the end of the snatch; you have to catch the bar with straight arms.

    Hope this helps.

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    Default Re: Push Press and power clean ???

    Thanks for the explanations, comrades. I am not looking to compete but to add explosive weight training to my repitoire. I found coach Davies stuff to date really interesting and I have even tried incorporating some of his ideas. Train hard and smart !

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