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    Marc_NY is offline Senior Member
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    Default Chrome kettlebells with revolving handles?

    Can you believe someone is making (what they call) kettlebells with revolving handles? I would like to see the brainchild who thought them up demonstrate some snatches, bottoms up presses and swings with those things.

    http://www.gracefitness.com/blackiron/kettlebell.htmhttp://www.gracefitness.com/blackiron/kettlebell.htm

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    firehands is offline Senior Member
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    Default Chrome kettlebells with revolving handles?

    This has been discussed before at length on this forum. Most concurred who had used them that they are an excellent product(the zinc not chrome finish is excellent)for many of the KB exercises.

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    Komardovich is offline Senior Member
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    Default Chrome kettlebells with revolving handles?

    I believe I once saw a picture of Sandow with a kettlebell that had a hinged handle.

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    Default The pictures of Steve Maxwell in RKC book show

    him using something along the same lines. Probably not such a bad idea...like rotating sleeves on a barbell make most lifts much easier on the hands.

    randy

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    BJones RKC is offline Senior Member
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    Default Interesting to say the least...and the reason barbell sleeves rotate...

    Some love them and some don't - John Wood has said they are good for some drills and not so good for others - just like any tool - it has to be used for the correct job.

    BTW - rotating sleeves on a barbell serve a VERY different purpose from those on the KB - Barbells have rotating sleeves to help balance the weight and prevent the rotation of the weight from being transferred into the lifter (think O-Lifts - cleans for example- if the sleeves did not rotate the cleans would throw the lifter off balance - and this is why the cleans with the Apallons Axil are more difficult - no rotating sleeves)
    the actually handle the lifter is holding on to does not rotate in the barbell lifts - VERY different.

    Brett

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    Default Fyi....

    Marc,

    I met the man who helped design the Black Iron KB's two year at the NSCA National Convention. He said that they were designed around what they saw as weaknesses in the traditional KB. The flat shape and the revoling handle allowed the user to perform the snatch with the KB finishing on the front side of the forearm and not the back. The thought was to protect the hands from callouses, the wrist from torque and the bruising impact of the KB landing on the forearm.

    The product is very well made and I believe that they are offered in 5# jumps through a wide range of weights. Having said that, I also think they missed the point about KB lifting, at least in terms of the tradition that Pavel brought to this country. But, to each their own.

    Peace & Power
    Rick

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    Default Interesting, Rick. This sounds like a solution in search of a problem

    It does seem like they missed the point of KB lifting and don't really have a clear idea of what good technique consists of. However, I can imagine the rotating handle and the flat shape working okay for cleans and snatches with more of a corkscrew technique; less so with a flip.

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    RCH
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    Default Brett, respectfully disagree...

    in the Olympic lifts the lifter quite explosively rotates the bar in both the clean and the snatch. If you watch a tape in slow mo' you will observe the bar turn while the plates remain in virtually the same orientation...the bar rotates inside the sleeves. you are partly right about the apollons axle, but what what makes it so tough ultimately, especially if the plates are tight, is the lifter is overcoming the inertia of the plates as he rotates the bar around...and then must control the momentum thus generated.

    Randy

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    RCH
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    Default on second thought...

    i think i misinterpreted your explanation...i think we are saying the same thing.
    sorry...
    randy

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    Default Interesting, Rick. This sounds like a solution in search of a problem

    When I called them, they said you don't "flip" you keep the bell in front, dvd and booh too.

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